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Recording Techniques :: RE: MJ's touring guitarist

PeterAuslan — Fri, 03 Jul 2009 00:36:51 GMT

Author: PeterAuslan
Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2009 8:36 pm (GMT -4)

She played with Jeff Beck too.

Computer World :: RE: MOTU firmware problem

farview — Fri, 03 Jul 2009 00:31:16 GMT

Author: farview
Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2009 8:31 pm (GMT -4)

goose134 wrote:

As for how long ago I emailed them, it's only been three or four days now. I haven't given up hope yet, but I am frustrated.

Call them. They didn't respond to my email until 3 weeks after I got my unit back from them. Call them, it's the only way.
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Making A Space :: RE: acoustics/ studio Builder in hollywood

mixohoytian — Thu, 02 Jul 2009 23:49:09 GMT

Author: mixohoytian
Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2009 7:49 pm (GMT -4)

As far as the Iso box goes, Is this a fully enclosed box? You'll certainly want to decouple it from the floor too. Rubber feet should help get you part of the way there. It's going to be big and heavy though. And that's the rub here.... It's really hard to build an iso box that's super effective, but doesn't weigh a TON. And that's probably why you see the single 12"'s and smaller boxes.

good luck.[/quote]
it will be completely enclosed
it will be on casters so it will be off the ground

isn't rock wool like rigid fiberglass?

are you saying that rigid fiberglass, even if it were inside the walls, you would still want it on the inside to be the 1st thing the sound hits? (to deaden)

Gear Talk :: RE: Latest gear you've acquired.....

joninc — Thu, 02 Jul 2009 23:48:48 GMT

Author: joninc
Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2009 7:48 pm (GMT -4)

just curious - how or why is this better than the standard boss pedal tuner?
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Gear Talk :: RE: Latest gear you've acquired.....

sears — Thu, 02 Jul 2009 23:43:09 GMT

Author: sears
Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2009 7:43 pm (GMT -4)

Lumin wrote:

i just got mine about an hour ago. was tuning my rhodes on my lunch break. this pedal is the real deal. i wont even go into my old tuning method (because it sucks), but lets just say this is about as good as it gets.
if you have an instrument that needs the occasional tuning, go out and get this tuner asap.

Super fast shipping. I got it a couple of days on the East Coast. This thing is badass. I tune by ear so I've held off on a tuner pedal, since they're so vague. (And I play bass, where you can tune mid-song.) The Turbo Tuner is what I've been waiting for.

Making A Space :: RE: acoustics/ studio Builder in hollywood

norton — Thu, 02 Jul 2009 23:32:35 GMT

Author: norton
Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2009 7:32 pm (GMT -4)

You can completely add GG and more rock/plywood to the exterior.

This will add some benefit to the isolation, but you're better off attacking the inside of the box with GG/rock or plywood. Knocking the vibrations at their source is generally the best first course of action.

Again...for the inside Foam is ok... but rigid fiberglass is way cheaper and FAR more effective.

Do a localized search on Thomasnet.com for fiberglas and you'll find it. It's out there and there are generally no minimums required for purchases.

Different materials are good to use... especially when their properties offer a cumulative effect and ADD up to a positive gain for your project.

Not so much when they add up to a net gain of 1 and wasted time and money.

As far as the Iso box goes, Is this a fully enclosed box? You'll certainly want to decouple it from the floor too. Rubber feet should help get you part of the way there. It's going to be big and heavy though. And that's the rub here.... It's really hard to build an iso box that's super effective, but doesn't weigh a TON. And that's probably why you see the single 12"'s and smaller boxes.

good luck.

DIY Gear :: RE: VU meter lights went out....

RodC — Thu, 02 Jul 2009 23:29:50 GMT

Author: RodC
Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2009 7:29 pm (GMT -4)

welcome to the board!

How many lamps are there? I have seen them wired in series so they can use a higher supply voltage, so if one goes out they all go out.

Im sure someone has a schematic that should help.
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Making A Space :: RE: acoustics/ studio Builder in hollywood

Waltz Mastering — Thu, 02 Jul 2009 23:14:16 GMT

Author: Waltz Mastering
Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2009 7:14 pm (GMT -4)

mixohoytian wrote:

He builds diffuors, bass traps vox booths, control rooms etc.. big budget studios and he swears by MLV

I'm gonna trust him

+1 I've built some pretty good sized rooms myself and had great luck with MLV.

I think using a combination of materials with different densities and properties always works the best. Good luck.
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Making A Space :: RE: acoustics/ studio Builder in hollywood

mixohoytian — Thu, 02 Jul 2009 23:09:26 GMT

Author: mixohoytian
Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2009 7:09 pm (GMT -4)

the vocal booth one comes un assembled...
you could do something like that..
but maybe that's why the vocal booth one doesn't completely sound proof

let me ask you guys this:
I'm already taking a chance and it's only $300

but if the box needs improvement,
I can add foam on the inside no problem

can I add green glue and drywall to the outside and make it thicker
would that work?

or what about my idea of having a 2nd box and this one floating inside that box?

that would work right?

DIY Gear :: RE: VU meter lights went out....

thefastvinny — Thu, 02 Jul 2009 23:05:45 GMT

Author: thefastvinny
Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2009 7:05 pm (GMT -4)

Is there any voltage getting to the lamps? Could be a blown fuse. The lamps could have all gone out but i dont think that is very likely. Are they LEDs or incandescent?
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People Skills :: RE: Major/Independent Distribution

RodC — Thu, 02 Jul 2009 22:52:15 GMT

Author: RodC
Subject: Re: Major/Independent Distribution
Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2009 6:52 pm (GMT -4)

@�,*��&� wrote:

According to CD Baby, 70% of consumers still prefer to buy a compact disc rather than download a song.

... of those who pay for music
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People Skills :: RE: Why book loud groups in venues below residential apartments?

alex matson — Thu, 02 Jul 2009 22:41:23 GMT

Author: alex matson
Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2009 6:41 pm (GMT -4)

Really? Cool! Yeah, i had dinner with my sister's ex that night...he was the guy that got me into keys and all things prog. I still wear my Georgia Theater tshirt proudly. I lived in Athens in '84...and somehow never heard of REM. I think they had already moved past the 40 Watt by then.
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Gear Talk :: Where is this digital shmutz coming from? DA7-MOTU2408-TDIF?

Snarl 12/8 — Thu, 02 Jul 2009 22:38:26 GMT

Author: Snarl 12/8
Subject: Where is this digital shmutz coming from? DA7-MOTU2408-TDIF?
Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2009 6:38 pm (GMT -4)

I'm having a hell of a time recording and playing back from my DA7 to Cubase via TDIF and a MOTU 2408. Actually, recording seems to work fine, but on playback I'm getting this bit of digital shmutz on the signal.

Here's a sample.
http://snarlnet.com/shmutz.wav

That's the signal routed back into the DA7 from the TDIF inputs, mixed in the DA7 and then sent back to Cubase on S/PDIF. If I mix in Cubase and monitor via SPDIF that shmutz isn't there. So it's either coming in on the TDIF signal from the MOTU, or my inputs on the DA7, or my digital summing, or something. It feels like a clocking issue, but I've tried every conceivable clocking combination between the MOTU and the DA7 and the shmutz is still there. A few combos made it worse.

Has anyone heard that sound before on similar hardware and figured out how to eliminate it? At first I thought it was because I was using home made TDIF cables, but my store bought ones just came in the mail and they've made not one tiny bit of difference in the sound quality.

One other clue: the signal in Cubase coming from the DA7 via TDIF is way hotter than it should be. I'm using "Direct Out" on the DA7 and the input meters are in the -20 to -12 range and they're pinning the meters in Cubase. The sample above is after I pulled way down on the faders on the DA7 and sent a -40ish signal to Cubase, in case it was some sort of digital cross-talk or something.

Help?

Edit: Could my problem come from not having a PCI 424 card and therefore not being able to run CueMix? I'm wondering if I need to be able to set levels somewhere on the computer side that I can't do with my present situation. I'd just buy a 424 card, but I'm getting tired of throwing money blindly at this problem. This "upgrade" to the DA7 is already much more expensive than I was figuring on.

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Hookups :: Washington, DC Area TapeOP Hang

cgarges — Thu, 02 Jul 2009 22:38:20 GMT

Author: cgarges
Subject: Washington, DC Area TapeOP Hang
Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2009 6:38 pm (GMT -4)

Hey DC-area folks!

I'm going to be in Washington from July 10th to July 14th and was thinking about seeing if there are enough of you to get together for a hang on Monday, the 13th. Anyone interested?

Chris Garges
Charlotte, NC
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Hookups :: looking for bad ass drum editor

ElectricMess — Thu, 02 Jul 2009 22:32:28 GMT

Author: ElectricMess
Subject: looking for bad ass drum editor
Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2009 6:32 pm (GMT -4)

hey, Im working on an album and Im looking for someone who is impecabble with their drum edits with regards to timing, feel and sound.

drummer on the record is pretty solid but i want 110% and between his playing and my editing i feel like im 90% there.

If you can take drum tracks to the next level or know someone who can, please get in touch!

People Skills :: RE: Why book loud groups in venues below residential apartments?

cgarges — Thu, 02 Jul 2009 22:27:42 GMT

Author: cgarges
Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2009 6:27 pm (GMT -4)

alex matson wrote:

In 1997 I joined this band called the Samples.

No shit! You were in the Samples? Then, I think I actually met you at the Georgia Theatre one night when you guys were playing there with Vertical Horizon. Too bad Jeep bailed on that gig. What a great drummer. I was actually thinking about that dude today. I was huge Samples fan when they were on W.A.R.

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People Skills :: RE: Why book loud groups in venues below residential apartments?

cgarges — Thu, 02 Jul 2009 22:23:59 GMT

Author: cgarges
Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2009 6:23 pm (GMT -4)

roscoenyc wrote:

The money goes into a pool for "top hitmakers"

Jukebox companies pay licensing but that money also goes to a pool. For instance, at the Lakeside Hazil Adkins "No More Hot Dogs" gets played a lot but the Haze died without seeing any dough from that. The dough went to Michael Jackson and Brittany.

I was under the impression that the money went to a general fund that, in addition to membership dues, helped pay for the things that those companies offered, thereby benefitting all their members equally. Are you saying that this money goes directly to a certain percentage of their top collectors? How is that calculated?

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Computer World :: RE: Best way to get 16 analog in

signorMars — Thu, 02 Jul 2009 22:22:07 GMT

Author: signorMars
Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2009 6:22 pm (GMT -4)

bickle wrote:

Funny, I was just thinking about upgrading my two 1010s, which I sync via wordclock - where can I find out more about the improvement using S/PDIF? I've never heard this before...

Basically the issue is that the clock itself is located on the PCI card, so to sync via word clock, it has to travel pretty far, making it more prone to jitter. Also, the particular way they implement the word clock is not so great. Most importantly, unless your 1010 happens to be vastly exceeding its specifications, it can only reliably sync via word clock at 44.1k or 48k, IIRC. When I used the word clock to sync, I got tons of pops and clicks and noise. Never had any trouble like that with S/PDIF sync, at any sample rate.
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Computer World :: RE: WAV vs MP3

ipressrecord — Thu, 02 Jul 2009 22:15:26 GMT

Author: ipressrecord
Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2009 6:15 pm (GMT -4)

I would suggest this as well. The problem is that if you are peaking at 0dB via WAV file, then the MP3 conversion somehow creates slightly higher peaks (which leads to clipping), or the MP3 playback cannot handle brick wall at 0dB, lacking soft limit or something.

I always master (I use that term loosely) using Ozone 3 in combination with Vintage Warmer, and set the ceiling at -0.3dB. Provided that you have a nice RMS level, the 1/3 dB drop in volume will be unnoticeable.

If you need better metering (not sure what Logic comes with as I use Digital Performer), check out FreeG.

Hope that this helps.

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Gear Talk :: 1977 Fender Fretless p-bass neck... how much is it worth?

the north wind — Thu, 02 Jul 2009 22:12:06 GMT

Author: the north wind
Subject: 1977 Fender Fretless p-bass neck... how much is it worth?
Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2009 6:12 pm (GMT -4)

I recently picked up a frankenpbass that has a 77 fretless precision neck on it. It plays really well, and is in really good shape. I'd like to sell it and get a fretted neck though as I am fretless-handicapped, but am having a hard time finding comparable necks for sale. Any idea on the price?

Also, I was the told that the body that I got with the neck was a 1963, but how do I verify that? The original pickups, pots and neck-plate are long gone.

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Gear Talk :: RE: 2-Channel Preamp for Stereo Overheads / Acoustic GTR ~$1,000

ipressrecord — Thu, 02 Jul 2009 22:08:51 GMT

Author: ipressrecord
Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2009 6:08 pm (GMT -4)

Have you considered a Sytek? Twice the amount of channels for under your budget. Excellent sounding preamp.

Also, what about 500 series?

Jeff
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People Skills :: RE: Why book loud groups in venues below residential apartments?

alex matson — Thu, 02 Jul 2009 21:59:47 GMT

Author: alex matson
Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2009 5:59 pm (GMT -4)

In 1997 I joined this band called the Samples. It brought me from playing in a cover band and doing video editing in a camera store to six months of touring per year, making records, and all the college girls you could eat. The band had added a guitarist that I used to play with, then their keyboardist flaked and the guitarist recommended me. All was cool at first, though several people warned me about the lead singer's ego. The music was 'meh' at best, but it sure was fun playing to packed clubs and theaters.

During my last two years with the band, it was evident to everyone that this ship was sinking. The worse the conditions got, the nastier the singer became. On the day that we were to play a club in Pittsburgh, a place two flights up on a busy street, I had arranged for my mom, who I hadn't seen in over a year and who had never seen us play, to come to the show with my cousins who she was visiting (she'd flown up from Memphis.)
The crew had been up for a couple of hours, the bus bays and trailer were unloaded, and then the bus was moved two blocks down the street. The singer lost it when it was revealed that the bus could not park in front of the club due to new city regulations. After several angry phone calls to everyone, from the booking agent in New Hampshire to the Pittsburgh Chamber of Commerce, he cancelled the gig. The crew had to take everything back down the stairs and load up the bus, we were out three grand, the club banned us, and as we drove away, the singer called a meeting about how he was looking out for all of us, making sure we weren't being treated like second class citizens.
This would be the first of many times I ended up being driven up and over the wall.
I told the guy he was a ridiculous pain in everyone's ass. Even remembering this brings back a terrible time in my life. Eventually, we all quit the band on the same night. The singer promptly hired the opening band that had been touring with us, kept the name, and the act managed to stay on the road for several more years...
I have to say that weighing all the sacrifices people make versus the rewards...for me, doing what i want to do musically at home and having people in my life that I love around me is far more worth it. It was a fun ride, but, damn, I think people's fantasies of rock stardom make them carry on far beyond the quality of life and music that actually results.

A second quick story: A teacher in college told us about the time Barry White came to the studio where he was interning. Barry orders three pepperoni pizzas and one cheese pizza. When they arrive, the intern is reaching for a slice of pepperoni when his wrist is grabbed and his hand is pushed into the pie. he looks up, and Barry growls, "The pepperonis are mine. The cheese is for you guys." Love Unlimited indeed.

Computer World :: RE: Sample program

The Scum — Thu, 02 Jul 2009 21:58:54 GMT

Author: The Scum
Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2009 5:58 pm (GMT -4)

Audacity for auditioning.

Windows explorer for the name change.

Recording Techniques :: RE: MJ's touring guitarist

KennyLusk — Thu, 02 Jul 2009 21:35:16 GMT

Author: KennyLusk
Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2009 5:35 pm (GMT -4)

Thanks for that dwlb, she's totally hot but man she Rip's on the guitar too. Nice!
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Recording Techniques :: RE: MJ's touring guitarist

dwlb — Thu, 02 Jul 2009 21:30:04 GMT

Author: dwlb
Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2009 5:30 pm (GMT -4)

That'd be the lovely and talented Jennifer Batten.
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