Bass Drum - Extra Resonant Bass Drums...

[the finger genius]

Was lurking around on the Tarbox Road site, and found a link to this pic.



Anybody tried this before? Hmmm....

[0-it-hz]

woah...um. Big.

A little overboard maybe? I've used a 24" marching drum in front of a kick with great results in the bast. Anything big and boomy that I can tune down to nothing seems to work well. It always sounds better in the room than it does in the mix though... If I was recording a band like Federation X or other no bass band than it could be a real feature of the drum sound.

I get better and more useful results with a DIY subkick on the reasonant head. Mine is a standard 6" woofer used in car stereos, it sounds huge in my room and of course, great in the car.

[djimbe]

I've used a single 22" with a single head in front of a 20" before. Sorta like a shell extension. You can put a mic inside the second drum, and one outside. Never tried three. That's just crazy business... (winky face)

We had a 28" Leedy concert bass drum for a while. That thing was a fun resonant space next to a regular kick drum.

[drumsound]

I've done one really resonant BD (a shallow Leedy and Ludwig) in front of a 'rock BD' with good results. Never 2 resonant drums.

Fridman always has a method to his madness though...

[Fakiekid]

i have a cardboard tube about 16" wide and 4ft long for that. Stick my speaker or blue mouse at the end of it and bobs ur uncle! but i dont use it often. i'd like to hear that though!

[I'm Painting Again]

to me that is more of an "engineer prformance" thing than actually usefull..

look how crazy I am!! I'm using 3 bass drums!! I'm crazy smart & creative!!

one good bass drum tuned right should be able to have the same result as what's going on in that picture..

[James B]

i have a friend who swears by doing that, but he's the kind of guy who thinks that using 16 mics on a drum kit is the only way to do it "professionally", so that leads me to think it's a waste of time.


though maybe it is actually good, i've written it off a bit hastily...

[the finger genius]

to me that is more of an "engineer prformance" thing than actually usefull..

I think Fridmann has made some great records and gotten some amazing sounds by trying shit that seems crazy, wrong, or unnecessary. And bands pay a lot of money to record with him because of it. Finally, he's probably the least pretentious dude I've ever met. So while I'm not saying that you can't get a fine kick drum sound with one well tuned drum, I do think there's a lot of value in trying shit like this, without automatically dismissing it. (Especially when a major label is paying you to do so...)

[I'm Painting Again]

It's really not that crazy..Walter Anderson who tied himself to a tree on an island in the path of a hurricane to finish his paintings is crazy..you get the sound of a less loud larger resonant head on a track..big whoop..why not just nix the middle drum? Same result..see this is why I think it's more for show than for function..I'm all for experimentation but to my eye..here in that pic I can see it might be more flash than function..and flash in itself *is* a valuable tool in making an artist feel good and special and a very important part of the magic of a working engineer/producer..so in that sense as well as getting great sounds he is really superb at his job..

[k Holmes]

I'm wondering why he doesn't have more floor toms...

[Slider]

Probably 50% of the time I record drums, I use a 24" shallow drum with full coated ambassador heads in front of the normal kick drum to add some depth. You can get a dry punchy sound from the first kick and a huge resonating boom from the outside one. Works great for me.

[NewAndImprov]

I recorded a drummer once whose kick was 3 shells bolted together, and no outer head. Sounded great. He was a great drummer with an awesome feel, and he was loud as hell. Somewhere around here I have a DAT of his drum tracks, if I can find it I can post it.