Occupy Wall Street
Occupy Wall Street
How do you guys feel about what's going on?!
I'd like to hear what you guys have to say before I voice my own opinion; however, I am going to post a couple things I've come across this morning that I feel have important messages.
Here's a great article by the Times.
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/10/10/opini ... c_ev=click
Also an MSNBC (yes mainstream media) reporter calling out police brutality and police corruption across America.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=meT8CJgE ... ture=share
I'd like to hear what you guys have to say before I voice my own opinion; however, I am going to post a couple things I've come across this morning that I feel have important messages.
Here's a great article by the Times.
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/10/10/opini ... c_ev=click
Also an MSNBC (yes mainstream media) reporter calling out police brutality and police corruption across America.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=meT8CJgE ... ture=share
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I think a lot of people are distressed about the shrinking middle class and the growing disparity in income - the right and the left alike. I've even heard right-wing pundits like Rich Santorum coming out in favor of what these (mostly) left-leaning protesters are against.
Where the two sides differ is on what to do about it. The libertarian right is likely to say that regulations that favored corporations are to blame, while the liberal left will probably advise that a lack of regulations curtailing them is the culprit.
I'm not sure if this is a great place to have a drawn-out political debate, so perhaps we can just say "maybe it's a little bit of both" and leave it there as far as the TOMB is concerned?
If we want to debate policies and world-views there are so many other great places to do it. On a personal level, I think FDR was neat, and it seems to me that every time we deregulate banking, it bites us in the ass eventually - but maybe here isn't the place to discuss it in depth? If we're just looking for an unofficial, unscientific tally and not a drawn out debate, then I'll give my simple +1 and leave it at that.
Where the two sides differ is on what to do about it. The libertarian right is likely to say that regulations that favored corporations are to blame, while the liberal left will probably advise that a lack of regulations curtailing them is the culprit.
I'm not sure if this is a great place to have a drawn-out political debate, so perhaps we can just say "maybe it's a little bit of both" and leave it there as far as the TOMB is concerned?
If we want to debate policies and world-views there are so many other great places to do it. On a personal level, I think FDR was neat, and it seems to me that every time we deregulate banking, it bites us in the ass eventually - but maybe here isn't the place to discuss it in depth? If we're just looking for an unofficial, unscientific tally and not a drawn out debate, then I'll give my simple +1 and leave it at that.
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You don't have to go very deep into a discussion to prove that de-regulation is good for those at the top, and bad for everyone else and for the world economy. The evidence is everywhere. Ignoring it and pretending that there are two sides here with equally valid arguments IS the problem.
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Well, odd synchronicity in all this, because I have just started poring through a Marx/Engels reader that my son left in his room, from some college class... you can't really call Marx a comedian, because he sees capitalism itself as a dire, corrosive situation, but he does ladle on the sarcasm, which of course I admire...
But he does lay it all out starkly: capital seeks profit, and there's no check on how exploitive it will become-- with resources, with people, with anything. Only the action of governments will place limits on it-- the more "neutral" the government, the colder the comfort.
But he does lay it all out starkly: capital seeks profit, and there's no check on how exploitive it will become-- with resources, with people, with anything. Only the action of governments will place limits on it-- the more "neutral" the government, the colder the comfort.
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Please move this thread to off-topic.
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Alternative suggestion: don't click it. Exercise your freedoms!dwlb wrote:Please move this thread to off-topic.
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Good question. The 22% Youth Unemployment Rate could have something to do with it.alcoyot wrote:I wonder where these people suddenly all have this free time to stand around.
http://www.bls.gov/news.release/pdf/youth.pdf
That means that almost 1 in 4 young people 25 and under who are out of school are actively looking for work and can't find any.
But we don't really want to open up this whole can of worms on the TOMB, do we? Can't we talk about microphones and stuff here, and complain about this kind of thing on our Facebook or Google+ pages instead? Better yet, curious parties on either side of the debate can go to one of the many demonstrations in a city near them, and ask around for themselves.
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you may have missed the joke. It is this: We don't have an off-topic section.chris harris wrote:Alternative suggestion: don't click it. Exercise your freedoms!dwlb wrote:Please move this thread to off-topic.
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