Unsane vocal sound - Attn: Joel Hamilton
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Unsane vocal sound - Attn: Joel Hamilton
i totally understand if this is not something Joel would want to share, but i am curious what was being utilized for the dirted up vocals on Blood Run. reamping? some obscure hardware? i've tried overloading tube and non tube mic pres, using tube mics with no headroom, and a variety of distortion plugins with no luck. closest i think i have ever come was putting two EH12AY7 pres in series.
it sounds a bit too harsh to be reamped - guitar cabs always seem to smooth out the top end.
anyone with insight is welcome to chime in.
it sounds a bit too harsh to be reamped - guitar cabs always seem to smooth out the top end.
anyone with insight is welcome to chime in.
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I'm interested in this too. Unsane is so crushing. The opening riff to this record... fuck.
Sounds like it could be an amp blended in, but I've gotten similar sounds reamping through a Rat or OD-1 pedal, or pushing my Daking pre really hard. I'd wager on the former though, judging by how the midrange sounds.
Sounds like it could be an amp blended in, but I've gotten similar sounds reamping through a Rat or OD-1 pedal, or pushing my Daking pre really hard. I'd wager on the former though, judging by how the midrange sounds.
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Hey guys.
Glad you are digging that record.
For chris I used a hand held sm57 into some mic pre just getting blasted. Chris eats the mic and screams into it. He also cups it and basically mishandles the thing really well.
For dave I used a groove tubes MD1a original into a VTL era Manley tube mono reference pre.... Also getting blown out like crazy.
I wish I could remember what pre I used for chris.
Essentially... I didn't want it to sound like ministry or any other "deliberate" drive applied to the voices. I wanted it to sound like something was being hit harder than it wanted to be hit and that it was giving up in an ugly way.
Not a silky smooth overdrive... Not a "decapitator" type situation. Not a eat pedal on an aux... A mic pre being melted. Just committing to it being destroyed rather than being reasonable on the way in at all.
Hope that helps.
Glad you are digging that record.
For chris I used a hand held sm57 into some mic pre just getting blasted. Chris eats the mic and screams into it. He also cups it and basically mishandles the thing really well.
For dave I used a groove tubes MD1a original into a VTL era Manley tube mono reference pre.... Also getting blown out like crazy.
I wish I could remember what pre I used for chris.
Essentially... I didn't want it to sound like ministry or any other "deliberate" drive applied to the voices. I wanted it to sound like something was being hit harder than it wanted to be hit and that it was giving up in an ugly way.
Not a silky smooth overdrive... Not a "decapitator" type situation. Not a eat pedal on an aux... A mic pre being melted. Just committing to it being destroyed rather than being reasonable on the way in at all.
Hope that helps.
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Did a search for "unsane" and found this...joel hamilton wrote:Hey guys.
Glad you are digging that record.
For chris I used a hand held sm57 into some mic pre just getting blasted. Chris eats the mic and screams into it. He also cups it and basically mishandles the thing really well.
For dave I used a groove tubes MD1a original into a VTL era Manley tube mono reference pre.... Also getting blown out like crazy.
I wish I could remember what pre I used for chris.
Essentially... I didn't want it to sound like ministry or any other "deliberate" drive applied to the voices. I wanted it to sound like something was being hit harder than it wanted to be hit and that it was giving up in an ugly way.
Not a silky smooth overdrive... Not a "decapitator" type situation. Not a eat pedal on an aux... A mic pre being melted. Just committing to it being destroyed rather than being reasonable on the way in at all.
Hope that helps.
"The vocals needed to be driven, so for Chris's vocal I let a sytek (burr brown) get KILLED by an SM57 and also kill the NY2A on ELOP to keep the Ess's and overall "buzz" in check. For Dave's vocal, I used a GT1a through a manley tube reference pre, through a 33609 limiter. "
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I found that Unsane album posted on youtube and even with the bad things that youtube does to audio, I can hear the lead vocal sounding distorted, effected but limited within a certain range of space. It definitely does not sound like someone added distortion or whatever after being tracked. Sometimes it's better to commit to a sound while recording it, rather than mangling it after the fact.
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