Can you recommend SDC pair for drum overheads?

permanent hearing damage · Post by **permanent hearing damage** » Fri Nov 28, 2014 7:46 pm

Recycled_Brains wrote:Used pair of Josephson C42s would be cool. That's what I use most of the time.

It sucks that bands never have good cymbals. Bane of my existence.

+1

Or AT 4051s. i got a pair for $500 used.

digitaldrummer · Post by **digitaldrummer** » Sat Nov 29, 2014 9:03 am

I use a pair of AKG 414b-ULS and I am very happy with them.

I'd also recommend the ribbons for taming the cheap cymbals, but ONLY if you have the right room for it since they are fig-8. but then again cheap cymbals will sound their worst in a bad room (think small square untreated room) no mater what.

Mike

Galen Ulrich Elfert · Post by **Galen Ulrich Elfert** » Sat Nov 29, 2014 10:12 am

cheap cymbals will sound their worst in a bad room

Yeah, don't know what your room looks like now, but your money might be better spent on some good rigid fibreglass, fabric, and a bit of lumber to bang up a cloud and some gobos.

That and trying, for what it's worth, to get the drummers to hit the skins harder and the cymbals less harder. (Or just less.)

My controversial golden ladder of elements contributing to a good recording in descending order of importance:

(most important)
Musicians

Music

Space
(not sure about the order of these two)
Instruments

(least important)
Gear

Sean Sullivan · Post by **Sean Sullivan** » Sat Nov 29, 2014 7:15 pm

AKG 451's and 460's are good choices. 460's are stupid cheap, just buy them. The Peluso's are ok. I work at a studio that was sent a lot of their product line to try out and they certainly didn't beat out the Gefell, Neumann KM184, or Earthworks they had. But, I liked them better than their SM81's (which are priced comparably)

Jarvis · Post by **Jarvis** » Sat Nov 29, 2014 9:42 pm

Even the best cymbals sound better not being absolutely walloped, but try telling that to a drummer.
I should know, I be one.

norton · Post by **norton** » Sun Nov 30, 2014 8:01 am

On the cheap, you can not beat a ribbon mic with nearly any budget sdc's.

A cheap ribbon mic might have a lower output and a cheap transformer but the ribbon makes the mic immune from off axis hash.

Galen is right on the money. Room acoustics are especially important when you are talking about drums... And overheads in particular.

Josephsons are superb, the km184 is also an amazing workhorse sdc.

Jim Williams · Post by **Jim Williams** » Sun Nov 30, 2014 8:11 am

The player is the key. No mic, preamp, converter or wishfull thinking will fix a drummer that displays poor dynamics.

A great player with less than stellar gear will do just fine. It was that way in 1970 and it still is.

nobody, really · Post by **nobody, really** » Sun Dec 07, 2014 4:40 pm

Old heads/cheap cymbals/poor technique/bad room- I've had good... er, decent results with EV635's. Get them real close.

tonewoods · Post by **tonewoods** » Wed Dec 10, 2014 11:56 am

nobody, really wrote:I've had good... er, decent results with EV635's. Get them real close.

+1...

A step up from 635s--and one of the best OH sounds I've ever gotten--is a pair of Altec cole bottles (thanks, Kearney Barton!), also placed very close to the cymbals...

sound for sandwiches · Post by **sound for sandwiches** » Wed Dec 17, 2014 1:42 pm

tonewoods wrote:
nobody, really wrote:I've had good... er, decent results with EV635's. Get them real close.
+1...

+2... my go to drum OH for hardcore and punk is a mono 635a.

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