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;ivlunsdystf · Post by **;ivlunsdystf** » Fri Jan 20, 2006 6:48 pm

You have a cool song there. Everything blends so well.

It all fits well with the clean design of the website too. Nice going.

My friend has a 2488 (first edition) that he brought along to Beijing for a year. He had to bring it in his carryon duffel somehow, and he also had to open it and demonstrate its features to the customs officers. Just imagine: "Okay, here's how the EZ Routing works. Watch this. Do you want "Match Drive" on that, or should we go for one of the microphone simulators?"

Between this bitchen song, your bitchen website, and your question about whether I have a website, I am getting fired up to set up a website again! Fantastic.

EDIT: I think I mean 2480. The Roland one, whatever that is.

sthslvrcnfsn · Post by **sthslvrcnfsn** » Fri Jan 20, 2006 8:29 pm

I have to chime in about the Olivia Tremor Control. Black Foliage is fucking amazing. The vocal sound is not the same, but in my mind it's similar. Check out the TapeOp Book thing on Rob Schneider from Apples.

ALSO check out So What About Freemdoom by Masters of Hemisphere. Those vocals have that brilliance, shininess, sparkle that I think you are talking about. The vocals are obviously double tracked the whole way through, and that plays a big part of the sound. Not sure what kind of gear or method they used when recording. I ought to google that....

Check those out, and check out the gear used. That'll give you a modern reference point for a smiliar sound, which might help you use that modern gear that you have in a better way. Not that you are inept or anything, didn't mean it like that....

jim!

joeysimms · Post by **joeysimms** » Fri Jan 20, 2006 9:49 pm

You really wanna sound like John on 'Bad Boy'?

get born in the 40's, be an excited teenager during the birth of rock and roll. buy everything wild and rocking from the time, try deperately to get some of that sound (larry williams, little richard, chuck berry, howlin wolf, muddy waters, fats domino, carl perkins, bo diddley, elvis presley..) way deep into your soul. love it more than anything in the whole world.

then fucking do it like you mean it.

abc · Post by **abc** » Sat Jan 21, 2006 6:08 am

dokushoka · Post by **dokushoka** » Sat Jan 21, 2006 9:41 am

Hi Hugh,
Listening to Taxman, aside from getting the u47, one thing you could do to get closer to "the sound" is kill some of the "bedroomverb." There are a lot of early reflections getting into the mics. You should do some searches for 703 on here.

;ivlunsdystf · Post by **;ivlunsdystf** » Sat Jan 21, 2006 10:02 am

Is there enhancer or exciter or maximizer on the lead vocal? It doesn't quite fool me. The guitar certainly does fool me though. Cool.

curtiswyant · Post by **curtiswyant** » Sat Jan 21, 2006 10:14 am

joeysimms wrote:You really wanna sound like John on 'Bad Boy'?

get born in the 40's, be an excited teenager during the birth of rock and roll. buy everything wild and rocking from the time, try deperately to get some of that sound (larry williams, little richard, chuck berry, howlin wolf, muddy waters, fats domino, carl perkins, bo diddley, elvis presley..) way deep into your soul. love it more than anything in the whole world.

then fucking do it like you mean it.

very good point. instead of trying to sound like the beatles, try to sound like who THEY wanted to sound like. Paul took some cues from Little Richard and bluegrass/Everly Brothers harmonies are all over the place. This was how they learned to sing.

abc · Post by **abc** » Sat Jan 21, 2006 10:57 am

mr scratchy esq · Post by **mr scratchy esq** » Sun Jan 22, 2006 8:56 am

Here's the most Lennon-esque vocal track I've recorded to date. The song reminds me of something that could have been on the Plastic Ono Band album, but the vocal sound is more from the Revolver era.

Recording Notes:
The vocal was recorded w/ a Neumann U-48 (VF-14 tube, KK48 capsule) into a Calrec PQ 11 based console. I don't remember if I used any compression on the vocal, if I did it was either an 1176 or LA-2A. I did use a Demeter Real Reverb (spring reverb). The effect you hear on the voice in certain sections is some kind of harmonizer that the singer uses live (it has foot switches to control it) maybe Boss makes it. I have no idea- but I like what does for the song. The acoustic guitars were recorded w/ a Neumann KM-54 directly into the Calrec console, no compression or effects. The Rick 360 12st gtr. was recorded with a Beyer M-88 in front of a 1964 Fender Princeton Reverb. Everything was recorded to an Otari 5050 1/2" 4trk.

BTW the singer Chris Cannon used to lead the Johnsons and he now has a great new band- Skinks. IMO the order of importance in trying to get this sound would be - singer, mic, mic amplifier, tape machine. I agree with the previous poster who stressed the importance of the accent. I think this singer uses that effectively as does Bob Pollard.

Check it out:
http://www.teenregimestudios.com/labelm ... fields.mp3

Good luck,
Bill

abc · Post by **abc** » Sun Jan 22, 2006 9:13 am

wedge · Post by **wedge** » Fri Jan 27, 2006 2:31 pm

joeysimms wrote:then fucking do it like you mean it.

The Key

leigh · Post by **leigh** » Fri Jan 27, 2006 2:34 pm

mr scratchy esq wrote:The effect you hear on the voice in certain sections is some kind of harmonizer that the singer uses live (it has foot switches to control it) maybe Boss makes it. I have no idea- but I like what does for the song.

All the vocal harmonies were done with a harmonizer? It does a pretty good job, if so. Or did you mean some other kind of standard chorusey effect?

Leigh

mr scratchy esq · Post by **mr scratchy esq** » Fri Jan 27, 2006 3:55 pm

All the vocal harmonies were done with a harmonizer? It does a pretty good job, if so. Or did you mean some other kind of standard chorusey effect?

Leigh

I think it was a Boss Harmonizer. I'm pretty sure it had several different footswitches that could be preset to create different harmonies. I have next to no interest in that kind of stuff (ie. effects boxes, guitar pedals, etc.) so I didn't really check it out too closely. It did add to the song though (IMO primarily because it is also a part of his live vocal sound).

Bill

Eric Rottmayer · Post by **Eric Rottmayer** » Thu Feb 02, 2006 2:17 pm

i just read thru this whole thread...i search for Beatles sounds constantly while
making up songs and recording. those sounds are why i wanted to make music
and start recording and i've found it difficult to create anything close to them. but it's still fun to try.
use whatever you have...i think it's more in how you do it than actual gear.

i recently did a cover of an early Bealtes song, "There's A Place" and i wasn't
really going for duplication, but i did try for the spirit:

http://www.ericmetronome.com/mp3s/cover ... aplace.mp3

thanks for starting this thread. i love that OTC album black folliage.
have to break that record out again.

eric

;ivlunsdystf · Post by **;ivlunsdystf** » Thu Feb 02, 2006 4:46 pm

We haven't heard from the originator of this thread much lately.

abc

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