"Led Zeppelin" drum sounds have ruined rock 'n rol

i am monster face · Post by **i am monster face** » Fri Jan 06, 2006 2:35 pm

dwlb wrote:
i am monster face wrote:
twonky wrote:
curtiswyant wrote:
twonky wrote:
Grady wrote:I thought the locking floyd rose tremolo system ruined rock and roll? hmmm.

I think it was Bright Eyes actually.

We like to call him Dick Eyes instead.
i like them except for that dude's voice. jeezus
Shooo-weeee!!!! not me, that singer guy make me want to jump out of my skin!

That twee cry baby, I mean I like some sissy music but come on!
Yeah and who's that damn Dylan character? His voice sucks too.
Though not everyone with a crap voice can write lyrics like Dylan...Bright Eyes dude being a prime example.

*sigh* Touche.

Led Zeppelin vocal sounds have ruined rock 'n roll

Ian

;ivlunsdystf · Post by **;ivlunsdystf** » Fri Jan 06, 2006 2:42 pm

What about those ghastly LZ Mellotron sounds? There's yer culprit.

centurymantra · Post by **centurymantra** » Fri Jan 06, 2006 2:59 pm

dwlb wrote:It's tough to work the phrase "Eldritch horror" into a snare drum thread though.

"Dude, that snare sound sits in the mix like the howl of an Eldritch Horror."

See..easy!

stinkpot · Post by **stinkpot** » Fri Jan 06, 2006 3:50 pm

Tatertot wrote:Q: How many bass players to change a lightbulb?

A: 1, 5, 1, 5, 1, 5, 1, 5 etc.

Thank you for that much needed laugh. And, yes, I'm a bass player.

Oh, yea "When the Levee Breaks" drums, well, I think they're just peachy.

I think modern rock drums sound nothing like that (for the most part). I don't like the ridged tempo, papery snares, clicky kicks, etc. Just doesn't do it for me. But that's my TASTE. I'm sure everyone's is different.

curtiswyant · Post by **curtiswyant** » Fri Jan 06, 2006 3:59 pm

dwlb wrote:
i am monster face wrote:
twonky wrote:
curtiswyant wrote:
twonky wrote:
Grady wrote:I thought the locking floyd rose tremolo system ruined rock and roll? hmmm.

I think it was Bright Eyes actually.

We like to call him Dick Eyes instead.
i like them except for that dude's voice. jeezus
Shooo-weeee!!!! not me, that singer guy make me want to jump out of my skin!

That twee cry baby, I mean I like some sissy music but come on!
Yeah and who's that damn Dylan character? His voice sucks too.
Though not everyone with a crap voice can write lyrics like Dylan...Bright Eyes dude being a prime example.

zing!

@?,*???&? · Post by **@?,*???&?** » Fri Jan 06, 2006 5:06 pm

I said this before in another thread long ago. "When the levee breaks" is the worlds tiniest drum sound.

For great, huge, sounding rock drums, look to "Dy'er M'ker".

But mostly, yes, I concur.

I'm sick of the generic standard room sound of a drumkit. Anybody want to argue the fact that this is the ONE thing that ALL American records have in common? Ever notice those British discs these days use reverb more than an American record would ever dare?

Mark · Post by **Mark** » Sat Jan 07, 2006 5:00 am

I waited five minutes for this fucking thread to load page 3.

This thread is broken.

Mark Alan Miller · Post by **Mark Alan Miller** » Sat Jan 07, 2006 7:36 am

Mark wrote:I waited five minutes for this fucking thread to load page 3.

This thread is broken.

That seems to be happening intermittently on random threads. I'll see one thread refuse to open, and when I come back later or the next day, it's fine.
Report it to the moderator, I suppose. It looks like a bug in the message board script to me.

;ivlunsdystf · Post by **;ivlunsdystf** » Sat Jan 07, 2006 7:48 am

This thread is ruining rock & roll.

Ethan Holdtrue · Post by **Ethan Holdtrue** » Sat Jan 07, 2006 8:43 am

I agree with Beavis and Butthead, that the Beatels fucked up rock and roll.

llamaj · Post by **llamaj** » Sat Jan 07, 2006 9:20 am

most drummers dont hit as hard as Bonzo. i play drums but just to mic them up. i will smash them to set the levels and get the right amount of room and all. Then this Zep head drummer can come in and smoke the meters. The room is louder, it sounds like a different kit altogether. i love the Zep sounds though. there i said it

eric b · Post by **eric b** » Sat Jan 07, 2006 9:20 am

i am monster face wrote: Led Zeppelin vocal sounds have ruined rock 'n roll

Ian

yeah, but you have to admit that that chick was pretty hot!

sthslvrcnfsn · Post by **sthslvrcnfsn** » Sat Jan 07, 2006 11:52 am

I used to have this link to Bonham out-takes from somewhere around Physical Graffiti or Presence. If you don't like the sound, too bad, but listen to the way he plays. Sure, it's rock drumming - not jazz or anything - but he's got great control of his dynamics (he's not just loud) and plays some great ghost beats. And the 16 kick triplets in a row in (song?) from the first album isn't very easy to do with no double kick pedal.

So, since Steve Albini's drums tend to sound rather large and room-y, should we lump him into this category? I mean this was supposed to be about modern drum sounds derived from what Bonham was made to sound like on record. <----Playing devil's advocate here.

I personally like a lot of the old R&B drum sounds - I'm no expert on which studios sounded exactly like what (Stax, Chess, Hitsville, Muscle Shoals, etc). Flat, cradboard-sounding, super washy cymbals - even a little bit of distortion coming from the cymbals pleases me. Actually, that early Stones record done at Chess has a great drum sound IMHO.

jim!

curtiswyant · Post by **curtiswyant** » Sat Jan 07, 2006 2:20 pm

Actually, what's ruining rock 'n' roll are stupid drummers hitting the crash cymbal every measure!!!

junkyardtodd · Post by **junkyardtodd** » Sat Jan 07, 2006 2:56 pm

No, that is SAVING rock and roll. My drummer is also an out of control animal, (short skinny italian kid, who swears he never even touches caffiene).
So I have him go fucking wild (like I have a choice) and then I mix the whole effin' kit BEHIND the acoustic guitar. It's this pulsating chaos, while the most important instrument, the BASS actually drives the song.

My drummer made me a genius!

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