minimize bleed in church

nystrec · Post by **nystrec** » Wed Jul 05, 2006 11:28 pm

I got asked to record a pastor during a really loud musical church service. The problem is they don't want any of the backround music wich plays through the entire service. And the pastor will not hold still. I know there will be some bleed, but what are my options to minimize that bleed? A certain mic? Compression? Please help?

syrupcore · Post by **syrupcore** » Thu Jul 06, 2006 1:56 am

man, that subject line is asking for it...

dynamic lav mic to the rescue!

I wonder if you could put a second one on him, facing outward or something (away from his mouth) and flip the phase on it while mixing to kill some of the background sound?

then again, you might want to explain to the folks at the church that if they dont want any background music in his mic, they shouldn't play any background music - unless they can work something out with god to suspend physics for a couple of hours.

Phiz · Post by **Phiz** » Thu Jul 06, 2006 2:48 am

Maybe an ear microphone is worth considering? I've never heard one, so I have no idea how much they sound like the person's voice.

Or you could take a cue from live theater work and get a little countryman mic.

Dave-H · Post by **Dave-H** » Sat Jul 08, 2006 6:03 pm

Why don't they want the music in the background?? Why not have him do his sermon in the studio or mabye gateing his mic would help. Also you could use a compressor side chain set up to duck any other sounds while he is preaching.
Dave H.

inverseroom · Post by **inverseroom** » Sat Jul 08, 2006 7:13 pm

syrupcore wrote:man, that subject line is asking for it...

Yeah--tell it to Pontius Pilate!

nystrec · Post by **nystrec** » Tue Jul 11, 2006 1:07 am

We don't want back round music or noise because we will be recording the music in the studio afterwards and they want the pastor over it. I'm trying to convince them to have the pastor come in and do a voice over session but they think the energy will be gone, and I think they're right.

;ivlunsdystf · Post by **;ivlunsdystf** » Tue Jul 11, 2006 7:29 am

inverseroom wrote:
syrupcore wrote:man, that subject line is asking for it...
Yeah--tell it to Pontius Pilate!

Dude, it's not real blood - it's just cheap grape juice actually

syrupcore · Post by **syrupcore** » Tue Jul 11, 2006 10:56 am

nystrec wrote:We don't want back round music or noise because we will be recording the music in the studio afterwards and they want the pastor over it. I'm trying to convince them to have the pastor come in and do a voice over session but they think the energy will be gone, and I think they're right.

dynamic lav mic, perhaps even a headset - either with as tight a polar pattern as you can find. maybe ask the band to be a little quieter that day. ask the pastor to be aware of the direction of his microphone and to stay away from the amps/monitors/drummer.

and/or, record the band live and skip the studio. most studios wish they had church acoustics.

If you were planning on going to a professional studio and paying for the sessions, you could likely pay the same or similar and have some one come and do a remote recording that will capture all of the spirit of the day.

Will

bannerj · Post by **bannerj** » Tue Jul 11, 2006 11:24 am

haha...fun with churches

would a hypercardiod work? A beta something? beta 57...do they make a beta 58?

scott anthony · Post by **scott anthony** » Tue Jul 11, 2006 11:34 am

bannerj wrote:haha...fun with churches

would a hypercardiod work? A beta something? beta 57...do they make a beta 58?

I have a Beta 58. Unless you are eating it, it's useless.

I would try pinning a dynamic lav to his chest, tell him not to look at the band if possible and wear a thick fur lapel

Is it possible to record the band live and fix stuff in the studio? With some isolation and decent drum performances...

mrufino1 · Post by **mrufino1** » Tue Jul 11, 2006 6:11 pm

Maybe this can be of assistance, if not it is free anyway...
http://www.presonus.com/recforworship.html
(I ordered the free DVD. the links on the page were connecting me to something different so I did not see it yet, hopefully it is worthwhile)

pumadrum · Post by **pumadrum** » Wed Jul 12, 2006 8:26 am

big church? are all instruments running through the PA?

if you use a directional lav and some filtering (dont record a gate or compression) you should be alright.

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