Vista and audio apps?

knobtwirler · Post by **knobtwirler** » Mon Jan 01, 2007 2:48 am

Anybody here use Vista? Does it work or is it in a transitional phase where apps need to be rewritten for it? I am going to make a separate Windows partition on my mac and installing whatever apps I find most useful for music purposes.

mrc · Post by **mrc** » Wed Jan 03, 2007 6:17 pm

Does this help? http://www.msfn.org/win2k3/
mrc

;ivlunsdystf · Post by **;ivlunsdystf** » Wed Jan 03, 2007 7:21 pm

I'm beating a retreat to Win 2k on my music laptop this week. I think Vista is going to be way too memory hog for my ghetto computers and I will NOT buy a newer faster computer just so I can run Vista.

blunderfonics · Post by **blunderfonics** » Thu Jan 04, 2007 6:07 pm

Many audio apps will need to be updated to work with Vista. There are all sorts of new User Account Management restrictions that can cause apps written for XP to malfunction under Vista. In addition there are 32 and 64 bit versions of Vista, so you could potentially have a double whammy of incompatibility unless your software has been revised for Vista compatibility.

kayagum · Post by **kayagum** » Thu Jan 04, 2007 6:24 pm

If there ever was a slam-dunk case of "don't ever buy the 1.0 version of anything"- it's this one. I seriously doubt that retroactively upgrading an existing machine to Vista will go well. First round of preinstalled Vista machines will work equally well. Corporate LANs won't go there (Vista is incompatible with SQL Server 2005, and they want to take over corporate computing???)

Don't let go of your XP licenses- Boot Camp, here I come!

;ivlunsdystf · Post by **;ivlunsdystf** » Thu Jan 04, 2007 7:00 pm

I didn't even own a computer until 2002, so I've never actually been online regularly during the release of a new Windoze OS.

Please, somebody help me with a little historical perspective: Is there always this much bad press when MS rolls out a new OS? I recall a big shitstorm when Windows 98 came out, but that was all in the newspaper, not online. Same with XP, I sort of recall. Actually, based on my recollections, Vista is actually faring pretty well in the press compared to its predecessors? (Correct me if I'm wrong)

kayagum · Post by **kayagum** » Thu Jan 04, 2007 7:20 pm

Forget the press....

95 was a huge improvement over 3.1
98 was an utter disaster compared to 95
XP was actually better than expected... if you kept up with the patches and didn't download virus infected porn
2003 was a non-event (most kept XP).

Vista has been getting bad press for (a) not being compatible with "Vista ready" machines, (b) not being compatible with (amazingly) Microsoft SQL Server 2005, guaranteeing that it won't be adopted by corporate America, (c) seeming to need patches from the get go even though Microsoft claims it's the most secure OS ever, and (d) it's 2 year late. Oh, and (e) Vista redefines bloatware (system requirements, amount of space needed to run).

knobtwirler · Post by **knobtwirler** » Fri Jan 05, 2007 8:18 pm

Would it be smart to start a business whose main income will be from upgrading people's computers to Vista and/or fixing all the problems it causes? Basically another Y2K cash cow?

;ivlunsdystf · Post by **;ivlunsdystf** » Fri Jan 05, 2007 10:05 pm

knobtwirler wrote:Would it be smart to start a business whose main income will be from upgrading people's computers to Vista and/or fixing all the problems it causes? Basically another Y2K cash cow?

That business is called Dell. I think it already exists.

JASIII · Post by **JASIII** » Mon Jan 08, 2007 9:07 am

kayagum wrote: XP was actually better than expected... if you kept up with the patches and didn't download virus infected porn

Well, that eliminates 99% of everyone I know.

knobtwirler · Post by **knobtwirler** » Mon Jan 08, 2007 9:48 am

Tatertot wrote:
knobtwirler wrote:Would it be smart to start a business whose main income will be from upgrading people's computers to Vista and/or fixing all the problems it causes? Basically another Y2K cash cow?
That business is called Dell. I think it already exists.

No seriously. Like three dudes that charge tons of money fixing "broken" PCs jut like the Y2K compliance fiasco.

DavidM · Post by **DavidM** » Wed Jan 10, 2007 12:49 pm

Why are you running parallels for music software on a Mac?

Cellotron · Post by **Cellotron** » Wed Jan 10, 2007 1:06 pm

kayagum wrote:Forget the press....

95 was a huge improvement over 3.1

Actually NT was the huge improvement - Win95 had lots of problems with multi-threading prioritizing in comparison to the much more robust WinNT.

98 was an utter disaster compared to 95

I disagree - Win98 and Win98SE were more like maintainance releases of Win95 but did feature a few code changes that actually did make them better OS's for running DAW apps on.

WinME wasn't that big of an improvement over Win98SE though. To me by far the best OS in terms of DAW app performance introduced by MS during this time period was Win2000.

XP was actually better than expected... if you kept up with the patches and didn't download virus infected porn

With the big exceptions of an activation scheme that created inconveniences for professional use - and SP2 actually crippling FW800 performance for some audio devices. I've kept all my DAW's running on Win2k as the app and hardware I run performs just as well on it as it does on WinXP.

2003 was a non-event (most kept XP).

Win2003 was aimed solely as a network server OS.

As far as Vista - everything I've read about this OS indicates that if you're running a pro studio it would be ridiculous to jump into an "OS upgrade" for your DAW's if you already have XP systems that are working well.

Best regards,
Steve Berson

kayagum · Post by **kayagum** » Wed Jan 10, 2007 3:32 pm

I'm only speaking from my personal and professional experiences through the various OS (as opposed to hearsay).

Obviously it's YMMV.

apropos of nothing · Post by **apropos of nothing** » Wed Jan 31, 2007 2:48 pm

I thought it would be bad. It looks as if it will be ridiculous.
http://www.cs.auckland.ac.nz/~pgut001/p ... _cost.html

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