DEMAG your vinyl / LP's!!
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- george martin
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DEMAG your vinyl / LP's!!
yes, yes! amazing!
just wanted to broadcast how much of a wonderful difference this is.
i recently picked up a bulk demag/degausser on eBay for clean erasure of some 'house' reels of tape that get tossed around for folks who don't wanna buy a multitrack reel. cool w/ me.
the old Scully sometimes has an issue with erasure depth. plus, sometimes I get used reels 'round here, and they're on 1" 12 track... not 1" 8....
ALAS
so, records build static, right?
and, even outside of obvious static (dust, etc), minor interactions could cause some interesting effects to a diamond needle gliding across vinyl/plastic, right?
so, one after another, I listened to a track, then demagged/degaussed it, then listened again.
it was, almost, akin to a remaster on most LP's. more dynamic punch, extended frequencies, more 'solid' imagery, wider stereo field. it is a very sizable step towards 'holography'. (i'm just using an AT 120 cartridge here, nothing crazy.)
- 'songs of leonard cohen' original press got five degrees deeper;
- 'bookends' sundazed reissue all of a sudden had extra wide imagery on tracks like 'punky's dilemma' - the toy piano started jumping through the speakers!
and more.
so, if anyone is getting hired for grabbing some samples from LP's, or reissuing/restoring material from wax, or just archiving something...
DEMAG EM!
<3
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just wanted to broadcast how much of a wonderful difference this is.
i recently picked up a bulk demag/degausser on eBay for clean erasure of some 'house' reels of tape that get tossed around for folks who don't wanna buy a multitrack reel. cool w/ me.
the old Scully sometimes has an issue with erasure depth. plus, sometimes I get used reels 'round here, and they're on 1" 12 track... not 1" 8....
ALAS
so, records build static, right?
and, even outside of obvious static (dust, etc), minor interactions could cause some interesting effects to a diamond needle gliding across vinyl/plastic, right?
so, one after another, I listened to a track, then demagged/degaussed it, then listened again.
it was, almost, akin to a remaster on most LP's. more dynamic punch, extended frequencies, more 'solid' imagery, wider stereo field. it is a very sizable step towards 'holography'. (i'm just using an AT 120 cartridge here, nothing crazy.)
- 'songs of leonard cohen' original press got five degrees deeper;
- 'bookends' sundazed reissue all of a sudden had extra wide imagery on tracks like 'punky's dilemma' - the toy piano started jumping through the speakers!
and more.
so, if anyone is getting hired for grabbing some samples from LP's, or reissuing/restoring material from wax, or just archiving something...
DEMAG EM!
<3
m
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valves and serviceability
*chief tech and R&D shaman at shadow hills industries*
preservation society
god bless +6 tape
valves and serviceability
*chief tech and R&D shaman at shadow hills industries*
- tjcasey1
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Take it from a Physics guy - magnetic fields only interact with iron (and a few other metals very weakly, if I remember correctly - or maybe I'm thinking of semiconductors), not carbon-based compounds.
Now, if you records were somehow covered with iron dust, then yeah, you'd hear a huge difference.
I think you're just listening more attentively.
(Truthfully, I thought this thread was a joke, so I read it.)
Now, if you records were somehow covered with iron dust, then yeah, you'd hear a huge difference.
I think you're just listening more attentively.
(Truthfully, I thought this thread was a joke, so I read it.)
I recall back in my vinyl daze (and I hadda {still have in storage} cuppla thou), I had a commercial product what was red, looked like a raygun, for just that purpose.
It worked a treat to remove static electricity - an obvious difference was after pointing the thing (hadda little wire sticking out of the end) and squeezing the long-sweep trigger, you could literally blow off most of the dust on a record.
I think it was called an "Anti-Static Gun".
I also used it to remove static cling on wool pants!
EDIT:
See here.
BTW, the charge static charge is apparently to do with the dust itself.
And another cool thing was, in the dark, you could see the gun shoot a spark.
Finally, I think I paid about US$25 for 'em, the last back in the mid-80's.
It worked a treat to remove static electricity - an obvious difference was after pointing the thing (hadda little wire sticking out of the end) and squeezing the long-sweep trigger, you could literally blow off most of the dust on a record.
I think it was called an "Anti-Static Gun".
I also used it to remove static cling on wool pants!
EDIT:
See here.
BTW, the charge static charge is apparently to do with the dust itself.
And another cool thing was, in the dark, you could see the gun shoot a spark.
Finally, I think I paid about US$25 for 'em, the last back in the mid-80's.
- ubertar
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Nickel and Cobalt and some rare earth elements are also strongly ferromagnetic. Also, some non-ferromagnetic elements become ferromagnetic when combined in compounds with other non-ferromagnetic or ferromagnetic elements.tjcasey1 wrote:Take it from a Physics guy - magnetic fields only interact with iron (and a few other metals very weakly, if I remember correctly - or maybe I'm thinking of semiconductors)
Of course none of that has anything to do with vinyl records! I like vvv's anti-static gun idea.
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I think that's reasonable.floid wrote:Strictly speculation from a guy more into Pynchon than Physics. But a d-mag is an electromagnet. Electricity and magnetism are expressions of the same force. Is it possible static dispersal is an unintended side effect that produces the desired result?
On the other hand, this is just over the top:
"it was, almost, akin to a remaster on most LP's. more dynamic punch, extended frequencies, more 'solid' imagery, wider stereo field. it is a very sizable step towards 'holography'."
Which is why I think we're in Radio Shack EQ territory here.
- I'm Painting Again
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I just did a google search and was shocked to discover the Radio Shack EQ thing was going well into 2012..OMGWTFBBQ!!
Was it dwlb or james who started that?
hilarious..
static electricity actually can create a magnetic field..
when it's in motion..
If a magnetizer can even out the unevenly charged ions before the turntable it would work to an extent similarly to the anti-static gun
as far as approaching holographic sound..
well
Was it dwlb or james who started that?
hilarious..
static electricity actually can create a magnetic field..
when it's in motion..
If a magnetizer can even out the unevenly charged ions before the turntable it would work to an extent similarly to the anti-static gun
as far as approaching holographic sound..
well
- JGriffin
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I wish I could take credit. But I can't.Sheep in Punk Clothing wrote:I just did a google search and was shocked to discover the Radio Shack EQ thing was going well into 2012..OMGWTFBBQ!!
Was it dwlb or james who started that?
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"Lots of people are nostalgic for analog. I suspect they're people who never had to work with it." ? Brian Eno
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