Neumann KM - tube mics

thedug · Post by **thedug** » Sun Mar 07, 2004 10:56 pm

Anybody know the low down on the KM tube mics?

I.E. What is the difference between the KM54 & KM56?
What is the difference between the 84 capsule and the 85 capsule?

Where can I go read about this stuff?

d./

Professor · Post by **Professor** » Sun Mar 07, 2004 11:43 pm

OK, this is really easy.
Goto www.Neumann.com which is the German site.
Click on the "InfoPool" link.
Then click on the "Historical Products" tab just below the gold line.
Or click here where I've done that part for you.
Then just look up each model you want to know about and there are brochures, tech specs, user manuals, etc. usually in a couple of languages on everything they've ever built.
Really a great resource for learning about microphones as well.

-Jeremy

thedug · Post by **thedug** » Mon Mar 08, 2004 6:07 am

The thing that confuses me is that the km84 is described as cardiod but the one I found has a 3 position switch on the power supply (omni, cardiod, figure

.

Also, the power supply looks like a telefunken mic pre plug-in module. Instead of the big cube with the leather handle.

d./

the dice · Post by **the dice** » Mon Mar 08, 2004 6:09 am

hey .

i have 2x KM184.

i use it on hi-hat, vocals (backings), electric guitars , ...

you name it. it does it. REALLY GOOD MIC. the only i do not like about them is their size... a little bit too small.

stole this from the neumann site....

The KM 183 omnidirectional and KM 185 hypercardioid microphones are based on the tremendously successful KM 184 cardioid microphone, which has become a standard within the global studio community in just a very short time. All "Series 180" microphones are available with either matte black or nickel finish.

thedug · Post by **thedug** » Mon Mar 08, 2004 6:12 am

Thanks but I was curious in the older mics.

Drop the "1"

d./

the dice · Post by **the dice** » Mon Mar 08, 2004 6:21 am

hahaha!

SRRY!

ok.

i do not have a 84 but a good friend of me has one.

and he thinks it great.

but.

he is known to be deaf.

so i would not trust his advice here...

jpschust · Post by **jpschust** » Mon Mar 08, 2004 7:07 am

the kmi84 is a KILLER mic, really sounds a lot better than the 184. its cleaner, less self noise. such a wonderful mic. for as much as i love the 184, it really puts the 184's to shame

penrithmatt · Post by **penrithmatt** » Mon Mar 08, 2004 7:45 am

well,we have a pair of KM56's,that we bought from the estate of benny goodman,and i have to say i fucking love these mics.on acoustic guitar they are amazing.had good results with them on piano and as drum room mics.they are 3 pattern,cardi,omni and fig 8.
i don't really have any other answers for you,but these two sound great
cheers
matthew
www.allairestudios.com

cgarges · Post by **cgarges** » Mon Mar 08, 2004 11:27 am

thedug wrote:The thing that confuses me is that the km84 is described as cardiod but the one I found has a 3 position switch on the power supply (omni, cardiod, figure .

Also, the power supply looks like a telefunken mic pre plug-in module. Instead of the big cube with the leather handle.

d./

The KM84 doesn't require an external power supply. Perhaps you saw a different mic.

Chris Garges
Charlotte, NC

thedug · Post by **thedug** » Mon Mar 08, 2004 2:17 pm

Sorry it is a KM54.

d./

mr scratchy esq · Post by **mr scratchy esq** » Mon Mar 08, 2004 5:22 pm

I have a KM-54. It's my favorite drum overhead and acoustic guitar mic. If you search the web you'll find the article about engineer Bill Porter's early 60's Elvis sessions at RCA-B in Nashville. He used a km54 on OH and a km56 on a guitar amp (I think) . These recordings are some the finest productions ever IMO. I also have an SM-2 which is a dual 56 (stereo). The 56 has a prescence peak so it sounds a little different. Great mics!

Bill

Teen Regime Studios

www.hifrequencies.com

thedug · Post by **thedug** » Mon Mar 08, 2004 6:00 pm

I got the KM54.

I was retrofited with a kk84 capsule.
Which seems cool cuz I can put on any of the other kk capsules.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... 708296301&

Thoughts?

d./

mr scratchy esq · Post by **mr scratchy esq** » Mon Mar 08, 2004 8:18 pm

Well... honestly, without the original nickel capsule it isn't going to sound like a KM54. I'm sure the mic will probably still sound good and the ac701 tube is a part of the sound of a 54/56, but the capsule makes a huge difference. I've never heard a 54 w/ an 84 capsule so maybe it is a great combination...

thedug · Post by **thedug** » Mon Mar 08, 2004 8:54 pm

Damn.. don't go burst my bubble.

d./

mr scratchy esq · Post by **mr scratchy esq** » Tue Mar 09, 2004 5:40 am

If I were you I'd search for a NOS 54 capsule. I have seen NOS capsules for the km56 on ebay so they are probably out there.

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