Quantegy closes its doors

[chris harris]

the shins first record was done on a digi001 I think...
and the new karate was done on a hd recorder.

anything Andy Hong has done.
The Flaming Lips - The Soft Bulletin and Yoshimi both saw time on a Digital Performer rig.
SMiLE

[soundguy]

hmmm since 1999 via digital...

I was actually thinking via anything, why limit this to bands that couldnt afford to track on a tape machine and then dump into a computer to edit the life out of their project. This is spinning way off topic though...

All I know is Im gonna put my vote down for the last Metallica record. Everyone hated that record because it made everyone realize how absurd things were becoming but nobody has ever made such a brilliant cartoon of themselves. The balls.

USRecording media, btw, has a bunch of tape which apparently they are promptly gouging for right now (although consider that a rumor, I havent called myself). If this is true, I wonder if they will lower their prices once Q starts running tape again.

btw, is anyone still freaking out about this or has the novelty of panic worn off yet?

dave

[Rick Hunter]

I know Dave is going to yell at me, but I liked the way the last Beck album sounded... alot. Also, I thought the Ugly Casinova album was super sweet boobies. And that dude, bounced to disk.

[dwelle]

are you kidding dave? i love this shit.

it's like a shot in the arm..."WAKE UP!"

they're just making sure everyone is still paying attention...

[bassface]

Is there any website where one could find out which records were made digital or analog? I'd be curious to know.
I bought that A/B CD that larry reviewed in tape op and certainly hear a difference between analog and digital, but not so much that being in digital would render an otherwise good album "garbage".

What are the most essential stages of recording to be analog, what instruments, and what would be a cost-effective way to do this? Would a 1/4" 2 track for mixdown give me great benefit, or is more important when tracking?

[JASIII]

Yeah, I was laughing when i typed that too. I've never heard any of the albums mentioned thusfar

[object88]

From page 4 of an interview with Rick Rubin...

Michael Fremer: I mean the Johnny Cash recordings you were involved with sound fantastic and I?m sure the vinyl was cut from digital sources.

Rick Rubin: It was. Everything is digital on those. The first couple were recorded on ADAT and the later ones were recorded directly on to Pro-Tools.

Those were some damned amazing recordings.

[JASIII]

They were ok, but those albums weren't great because of the sound. they were great because it was JOHNNY FUCKING CASH, recording lots of cute covers (ooh, he's singing a trent reznor song! Now he's doing Soundgarden!) THAT is why people like those albums, not because of the sound. Sound wise they are ordinary. very, very ordinary. Let's not confuse content or icon-ism with "good sound"

[object88]

Let's not confuse content or icon-ism with "good sound"

OK, by your logic, then, it doesn't matter what the recordings were made on. So who cares?

[Girl Toes]

Its not that its imposable, but I just think the emotional level carried through on the records was so high, and pretty low on the CD, and just not there on MP3. Hence, people don't really care about music as much as they used to. I mean, there was a time when there was SO MUCH GOOD MUSIC COMING OUT!!!! There were several times when that happond. But now, there stuff that's really good out there, but there aren't any more "holy shit's!". I don't know if its because of digital, but my analog snobbery likes to think so. The emotion of the melody has been lost, hence there is no melody any more. Damn, I am an analog snob, though.

Play me any record, I'll tell you if it was done digitally or not.

You still know a great album, no matter what it was recorded on. But its just a lot harder to feel. Hence, people have lost interest. hence, no GREAT FUCKING RECORDS!!! any more.

[object88]

Out of curiosity, what "great albums" have been recorded in the last 5 years on analog? I don't ask this as a challenge, because I know there are plenty; I'm just not familiar.

[Girl Toes]

Or what great albums have been recorded in the past 5 years???

I know, Yankee Fox Trot Hotel was analog, that was a pretty big release. Not ready to call it great.


What are the greatest 5 albums of the past 5 years??? That's the best questoion, then we'll debate how they were recorded.

I kind of see music as being over, it all seems such bullshit now.

[schnozzle]

I dunno about "greatest of the last 5 years," but a bunch came out that I thought were good...um...Yoshimi, "One Beat" by Sleater Kinney, The Junior-Senior album was pretty fun, I think "Low Kick & Hard Bop" by Solex was good, I really like this DC band called Rockmaster General, their record was great, "Knock Loud" by The Paybacks...um...I think The Avalanches album with the John Waters samples was good...I dunno, lots of stuff.

And yes, I realize that a bunch of those were done digitally.

[nacho459]

The only really good ALL digital album I can think of in the past few years was Steely Dan's "Two Against Nature" It sounds good, but sounds weak compared to "Everything Must Go" which was done a year or so later with the rhythm section tracked to 2", and I think mixed to 1/2"

Digital doesn't have to sound bad, I just think it's easier to get things to sound good on tape.

Yeah, and I like the way those Cash recordings sound. I bet they used a bitching front end!

[soundguy]

I really really like the last beck record, the EQ that the record got when it was mastered makes it really hard for me to listen to most of the time and I definitely cant play that record at any kind of loud volume which is a bummer. Thats probably my favorite stuff beck has done, it hurts my ears, the drumming bothers me and a bunch of other shit too, but its a cool record so far as Im concerned. I would never aspire to make something sound like that though, but thats just me.

There are plenty of good records that people make on either tape decks or computers, and while I really dont want to sound like a total snob, for whatever reason, I found less and less things to get excited about once computers hit the scene. You can blame it on the labels, you can blame it on the computers, you can blame it on file sharing and economics and THEN blame the labels, you can blame the bands, you can blame all sorts of avenues and you can defend or discredit technology as much as you want, but so far as rock and roll is concerned, this industry changed on a dime when computers hit control rooms and for my dollar not in a good way. If I was into hip hop, Id be saying the opposite, I think. Whatever the cause, music really started to suck once commercial linear recording became "unpopular". Me, Im blaming the computer. Its easy to make a good record on a computer, but thats the whole problem, people make it complicated and there you go. Because you CAN edit doenst mean you should and because you edited that sure as shit doesnt make you an editor...

this has nothing to do with quantegy...

dave