10 Recording Bloopers That Made the Album

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Post by A National Acrobat » Sat Sep 15, 2007 6:58 am

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BlackCoffeeSound wrote:Since it's technically on-topic, what exactly is happening during Zep's 'How Many More Times' during the bowing section where you can hear parts of another song/take pretty clearly?

This has to be an entry level question but sorry, I just want to know what it is.....
If you listen to enough zep, you'll hear TONS of this. Dazed and Confused is another example. I think it's print through and/or crosstalk from other vocal takes that got thrown out later. In some cases it's almost definitely print through because you hear a premonition of the very loud vocals that Plant is about to sing. It would be interesting to me to get an old copy of the LP and see if you can hear it on that, just to see if the print-through happened before or after the original master was made.

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I knew there had to be a technical explanation for all that. I've noticed it ever since I was 11 and started listening to Zeps first album.

'Print Through' is another facet of tape recording I am totally unfamiliar with. The last tape device I used was a Tascam 488. Since then I went to Pro Tools back in 2003 or so. I never learned as much about analog as I should. But yeah, I can kind of hear that sort of thing all over LZ 1.

Like in How Many More Times right after the line 'got me a girl and I kissed her then and then'. You can hear some kind of guitar that sounds a tad like Communication Breakdown or maybe it's just my ears.

Anyway, thanks for the explanation.

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Post by tonic889 » Thu Oct 11, 2007 8:42 pm

I noticed the other day that there seems to be a bad edit on "I Got You" by Stone Temple Pilots...It seems to me the echo on the vocals seems to mysteriously drop at :40 when Weiland sings the word "times"...Seems like a bad edit to me, anyone else?

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Post by Jeff White » Thu Oct 11, 2007 8:54 pm

There are no bad edits, only bad editing.
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Post by RefD » Thu Oct 11, 2007 9:24 pm

ipressrecord wrote:There are no bad edits, only bad editing.
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Post by apropos of nothing » Thu Oct 11, 2007 10:17 pm

cgarges wrote:Kenny Rogers audibly clearing his throat before the key change in "The Gambler."
Are you sure that's a goof, Chris? It seems so natural with the modulation and the narrator character.

There's one of those on Wish You Were Here, too.

I gotta chime in with a +1 on leaving a mistake or two on the album. You might think its a squeaky piano pedal. I think it proves I didn't play samples.

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Post by JGriffin » Fri Oct 12, 2007 12:18 am

apropos of nothing wrote:
cgarges wrote:Kenny Rogers audibly clearing his throat before the key change in "The Gambler."
Are you sure that's a goof, Chris? It seems so natural with the modulation and the narrator character.

There's one of those on Wish You Were Here, too.

I gotta chime in with a +1 on leaving a mistake or two on the album. You might think its a squeaky piano pedal. I think it proves I didn't play samples.
The real art is finding the place to put in the squeaky piano pedal sample so that the sampled piano track passes unchallenged.
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Post by RefD » Fri Oct 12, 2007 7:42 am

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apropos of nothing wrote:
cgarges wrote:Kenny Rogers audibly clearing his throat before the key change in "The Gambler."
Are you sure that's a goof, Chris? It seems so natural with the modulation and the narrator character.

There's one of those on Wish You Were Here, too.

I gotta chime in with a +1 on leaving a mistake or two on the album. You might think its a squeaky piano pedal. I think it proves I didn't play samples.
The real art is finding the place to put in the squeaky piano pedal sample so that the sampled piano track passes unchallenged.
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Post by apropos of nothing » Fri Oct 12, 2007 9:20 am

dwlb wrote:
apropos of nothing wrote:
cgarges wrote:Kenny Rogers audibly clearing his throat before the key change in "The Gambler."
Are you sure that's a goof, Chris? It seems so natural with the modulation and the narrator character.

There's one of those on Wish You Were Here, too.

I gotta chime in with a +1 on leaving a mistake or two on the album. You might think its a squeaky piano pedal. I think it proves I didn't play samples.
The real art is finding the place to put in the squeaky piano pedal sample so that the sampled piano track passes unchallenged.
I think you've got that backwards, these days.

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Post by JGriffin » Fri Oct 12, 2007 10:07 am

apropos of nothing wrote:
dwlb wrote:
apropos of nothing wrote:
cgarges wrote:Kenny Rogers audibly clearing his throat before the key change in "The Gambler."
Are you sure that's a goof, Chris? It seems so natural with the modulation and the narrator character.

There's one of those on Wish You Were Here, too.

I gotta chime in with a +1 on leaving a mistake or two on the album. You might think its a squeaky piano pedal. I think it proves I didn't play samples.
The real art is finding the place to put in the squeaky piano pedal sample so that the sampled piano track passes unchallenged.
I think you've got that backwards, these days.
I think you may not have gotten the joke.
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Post by Esmo » Fri Oct 12, 2007 12:52 pm

Italian Girls by Rod Stewart has a part where the bass just drops out and makes noise for about 2 bars. Incredible song though.

Tumbling Dice (stones) has a edit in towards the end where it slows down a bit. That one always bugged me.

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Post by Professor T » Fri Oct 12, 2007 2:45 pm

Green Onions - Steve's first guitar solo starts off REALLY LOUD for the first 2 notes, then backs off quite a bit.

Rush - Twilight Zone 1:08- some string/pick noise as Alex prepares to wail some overdubbed leads. Course it's one of my favorite bits, and I wait the whole song for it.

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Post by apropos of nothing » Fri Oct 12, 2007 3:35 pm

dwlb wrote:
apropos of nothing wrote:
dwlb wrote:
apropos of nothing wrote:
cgarges wrote:Kenny Rogers audibly clearing his throat before the key change in "The Gambler."
Are you sure that's a goof, Chris? It seems so natural with the modulation and the narrator character.

There's one of those on Wish You Were Here, too.

I gotta chime in with a +1 on leaving a mistake or two on the album. You might think its a squeaky piano pedal. I think it proves I didn't play samples.
The real art is finding the place to put in the squeaky piano pedal sample so that the sampled piano track passes unchallenged.
I think you've got that backwards, these days.
I think you may not have gotten the joke.
No, see, I'm saying that the real question is not where to drop the squeak, but knowing which squeaks to leave in to prove that it was an unadulterated performance.
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Post by JGriffin » Fri Oct 12, 2007 3:38 pm

apropos of nothing wrote:
dwlb wrote:
apropos of nothing wrote:
dwlb wrote:
apropos of nothing wrote:
cgarges wrote:Kenny Rogers audibly clearing his throat before the key change in "The Gambler."
Are you sure that's a goof, Chris? It seems so natural with the modulation and the narrator character.

There's one of those on Wish You Were Here, too.

I gotta chime in with a +1 on leaving a mistake or two on the album. You might think its a squeaky piano pedal. I think it proves I didn't play samples.
The real art is finding the place to put in the squeaky piano pedal sample so that the sampled piano track passes unchallenged.
I think you've got that backwards, these days.
I think you may not have gotten the joke.
No, see, I'm saying that the real question is not where to drop the squeak, but knowing which squeaks to leave in to prove that it was an unadulterated performance.
8)

Ah. :oneeye:
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Post by terencepalmer » Sat Oct 13, 2007 8:05 am

In regards to the Beautiful headphone bleed, that was a track that Linda Perry wrote for her own album that Christina Aguilera wanted to record. Linda didn't want her to, but eventually relented to letting her have one try at it. The vocal performance is great, but of course the song arrangement surely changed a bit from the demo version to the album version. I find it a bit refreshing that it was an undeniable performance that led to this being released.

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Post by giuseppe_fl » Sun Dec 14, 2008 9:04 am

On Johnny Cash's first American Recordings album he covers Cohen's Bird on a Wire, and I'm pretty sure there's a fairly obvious punch-in where he starts to sing "She cried for me" but then they punch in and he says "to me" so it sounds like "She cried out ff-to me."

I always got a kick outta that.

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