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pvassil3 · Post by **pvassil3** » Mon Jul 12, 2004 8:28 am

i just finished reading Confessions of a Record Producer by Moses Avalon and he wrote that you make around 40,000 if you work in a studio in LA or NY, 90,000 if your out on the road three quarters of the year, and some successful engineers make 200,000.... how true is this?

kcrusher · Post by **kcrusher** » Mon Jul 12, 2004 10:50 am

It's pretty accurate, though that 'on the road' wage is at the high end, i would say - either that or it's the higher end of possible job positions.

pvassil3 · Post by **pvassil3** » Mon Jul 12, 2004 11:09 am

what does he mean on the road?

pvassil3 · Post by **pvassil3** » Mon Jul 12, 2004 11:11 am

and what kind of engineer makes 200,000?

Shawn Simmons · Post by **Shawn Simmons** » Mon Jul 12, 2004 11:25 am

*see attached quote*

eeldip · Post by **eeldip** » Mon Jul 12, 2004 11:43 am

just for your info, my friends who work in studios in SF make 20-30. which for san francisco is just BARELY livable.

pvassil3 · Post by **pvassil3** » Mon Jul 12, 2004 12:22 pm

I don?t want to imply that i want to get into the music business for money because im not and the fact that i could make 20 or 30 grand or 200,000 does not sway my decision to get involved with the music business. I was just wondering if this book is legit and what kind of engineer makes 200,000 because as far as i know i have never heard of that.

kcrusher · Post by **kcrusher** » Mon Jul 12, 2004 1:19 pm

Engineers like Roger Nichols, Mark Ainslay, Bob Clearmountain, Butch Vig and the like probably are in that 200k range...

'on the road' means doing sound for live shows. FOH engineers usually make more than monitor engineers, etc.

littlebrothersclothes · Post by **littlebrothersclothes** » Mon Jul 12, 2004 2:57 pm

bombastique wrote:'on the road' means doing sound for live shows.

Which is *much* likelier to mean "touring productions of Andrew Loyd Weber Musicals" or "Disney's Ice Skating Spectacle" rather than doing sound for Aerosmith or Yo La Tengo (or even Britney or Randy Travis).

Doug

kcrusher · Post by **kcrusher** » Mon Jul 12, 2004 3:43 pm

littlebrothersclothes wrote:
bombastique wrote:'on the road' means doing sound for live shows.
Which is *much* likelier to mean "touring productions of Andrew Loyd Weber Musicals" or "Disney's Ice Skating Spectacle" rather than doing sound for Aerosmith or Yo La Tengo (or even Britney or Randy Travis).

Doug

pvassil3 · Post by **pvassil3** » Mon Jul 12, 2004 7:45 pm

if the book is wrong what is the avarage income of a recording engineer?

jamoo · Post by **jamoo** » Tue Jul 13, 2004 1:46 am

I'd find it meaningful to hear how much engineers who record music they like earn.

cgarges · Post by **cgarges** » Wed Jul 14, 2004 8:22 am

pvassil3 wrote:if the book is wrong what is the avarage income of a recording engineer?

It varies a lot from city to city and from engineer to engineer. I'd say on average, probably about the same as a public school teacher without benefits.

Chris Garges
Charlotte, NC

scott anthony · Post by **scott anthony** » Wed Jul 14, 2004 12:14 pm

I would guess that once established, $20k to $30k a year minimum. Pray for good years.

I've heard it can take up to seven years to build a large enough client list to freelance without a day gig. Unless you are lucky...

joelpatterson · Post by **joelpatterson** » Wed Jul 14, 2004 4:03 pm

Not to brag, but after eight years of running my studio in this rural paradise, I've got a bank account in the four figures, and that's not counting the decimal places!

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