M160 on Grand Piano
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M160 on Grand Piano
I record jazz piano trio's mostly, in a live setting.
The piano player does not like to close the lid.
The drums bleed into both the bass and piano mic's.
I tried 441 's on piano. They did a good job of isolation but the pianist thought they were to bright so I changed to 414's.
I was wondering about using the M160 on piano because they are hyper and less bright. Any thoughts on that?
I am using C480 with hyper capsule as drum OH and C12 VR on kick.
Also I am using U87 on upright bass but the drums bleed into that mic the most.
Please Advise
Jim
The piano player does not like to close the lid.
The drums bleed into both the bass and piano mic's.
I tried 441 's on piano. They did a good job of isolation but the pianist thought they were to bright so I changed to 414's.
I was wondering about using the M160 on piano because they are hyper and less bright. Any thoughts on that?
I am using C480 with hyper capsule as drum OH and C12 VR on kick.
Also I am using U87 on upright bass but the drums bleed into that mic the most.
Please Advise
Jim
not to jump on the post. noll should still have plenty to say when i'm done. but the big diff. is that the 160 has a dual ribbon element and the 260 a single ribbon. the 260 also has a high pass filter switch for dealing with extra lows, which is funny, because in my experience, the 160 has a much better response to low end info. the 160 is a bit flatter to my taste through the mids and the highs on both seem really accurate. i do prefer the 160, but i think they're both pretty great.
actually, mine is an older one too. the one at the studio. no filter. but the new ones have the filter. i had one in for a bit as a matched pair. they still sound remarkably similar.eeldip wrote:neither of my two m260s have that HP filter...
when did they start putting those filters in?
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I spent an hour this afternoon making a "drum kit" out of clicks, pops, scrapes, and jingles, which I recorded by whacking various things together in front of an M160. I love this microphone so much I just want to cry. It is awesome. Believe it or not, I was able to use its strong proximity effect to make the best kick drum sound I've ever come up with...by popping a packing bubble.
did you know that the m260 is a whole 100 better?inverseroom wrote:I spent an hour this afternoon making a "drum kit" out of clicks, pops, scrapes, and jingles, which I recorded by whacking various things together in front of an M160. I love this microphone so much I just want to cry. It is awesome. Believe it or not, I was able to use its strong proximity effect to make the best kick drum sound I've ever come up with...by popping a packing bubble.
The 260 has a more pronounced bottom end and a presence peak around 6k. It was designed as an announcer's mic for broadcast. The pronounced low-end gives you that "voice of God" sound that radio guys like. We used ours recently as a hand-held vocal mic for a Sinatra-type singer and it was perfect for that. As I mentioned in an earlier post, on piano we use the 160 for the treble side and the 260 for the bass side.
I believe the newest version, the M260.80 has a low-frequency roll-off. I've never tried that one. The M500 is pretty cool also. A bit brighter and with excellent rear rejection. It was designed as an on-stage vocal mic. We use it for scratch vocals when the singer is in the live room with the drums. It's very nice on electric guitars also for live tracking situations.
Beyer ribbons are superb mics and great values.
I believe the newest version, the M260.80 has a low-frequency roll-off. I've never tried that one. The M500 is pretty cool also. A bit brighter and with excellent rear rejection. It was designed as an on-stage vocal mic. We use it for scratch vocals when the singer is in the live room with the drums. It's very nice on electric guitars also for live tracking situations.
Beyer ribbons are superb mics and great values.
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