distressor or LA2A style comp
- joninc
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distressor or LA2A style comp
i want to buy a good comp this year. i have pretty decent mics and pres but no really great compressors - mainly just the usual tape op ones: RNC, RNLA, VLA etc... which are decent but not really spectacular.
i am debating a distressor or maybe a LA2A - i wanted to get some input but people who have these over which they prefer, what for and why... ideally i would try both of these out but that is not an option right now so i wil probably have to buy without trying them out. (i have used distressors before).
i want the LA2A for a amazing vocal chain but it seems a lot less versatile than a distressor. so - thoughts???
FYI i have a home studio and do lots of full band projects here - overdubs, mixing - all of that. sometimes we do beds elsewhere - sometimes we mix elsewhere but i often do all of it here so i need something that i can use a lot. i do a lot of indie rock/pop/singer songwriter type stuff.
thanks,
j.
i am debating a distressor or maybe a LA2A - i wanted to get some input but people who have these over which they prefer, what for and why... ideally i would try both of these out but that is not an option right now so i wil probably have to buy without trying them out. (i have used distressors before).
i want the LA2A for a amazing vocal chain but it seems a lot less versatile than a distressor. so - thoughts???
FYI i have a home studio and do lots of full band projects here - overdubs, mixing - all of that. sometimes we do beds elsewhere - sometimes we mix elsewhere but i often do all of it here so i need something that i can use a lot. i do a lot of indie rock/pop/singer songwriter type stuff.
thanks,
j.
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- timbertrout
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I've never used an LA2A...But I am quite happy with my distressors. Incredibly useful and varied results for practically all source matl. Vital for individual drum tracks and drum submixes. I use them both at tracking stage and at mixing stage. The DIST functions are great for drums.
The Distressor 10:1 OPTO function - which is supposed to emulate the LA2A , though, as I said, I can't vouch for how much it succesfully emulates the LA2A having never used one - is quite useful and distinctive compared to the other slopes. I use it when I want a signal to be compressed "subtly" and "smoothly"...The other slopes can be quite drastic sounding (cool sometimes, othertimes not).
I am a bit underwhelmed with their performance as 2-mix compressors. But that's hardly a strike against them, as 2-mix compression at "mastering stage" (DIY or Pro Style) is seemingly the MO for many.
The Distressor 10:1 OPTO function - which is supposed to emulate the LA2A , though, as I said, I can't vouch for how much it succesfully emulates the LA2A having never used one - is quite useful and distinctive compared to the other slopes. I use it when I want a signal to be compressed "subtly" and "smoothly"...The other slopes can be quite drastic sounding (cool sometimes, othertimes not).
I am a bit underwhelmed with their performance as 2-mix compressors. But that's hardly a strike against them, as 2-mix compression at "mastering stage" (DIY or Pro Style) is seemingly the MO for many.
I have two elopto compressors based on the LA2 design and use them all the time, they just help make things sound good. They have a pretty subtle effect on the sound compared to a Distressor. Much of the time, it's like having a really smart engineer riding the fader for you. When driven hard, it gets a nice semi-squashed sound, smooth on the high end, and nice heavy bass.
If you want a versatile compressor you can use with a lot of sources, and want to use the compressor as an effect, go with the Distressor. It's pretty amazing. If you just want to tame some levels and get that LA2 midrange 3D sound, go with an LA2.
(Edit: Sorry about the cross-posts! That's what I get for taking 15 minutes to write a reply.)
If you want a versatile compressor you can use with a lot of sources, and want to use the compressor as an effect, go with the Distressor. It's pretty amazing. If you just want to tame some levels and get that LA2 midrange 3D sound, go with an LA2.
(Edit: Sorry about the cross-posts! That's what I get for taking 15 minutes to write a reply.)
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- timbertrout
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Regarding the LA2A:
Much of the time, it's like having a really smart engineer riding the fader for you.
I haven't used an LA2A, but the first quote describes perfectly the result I seem to get from the OPTO setting on the Distressor...does the distressor do a decent opto comp sound or is it not even close?
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I am not familiar with a *real* LA2, although I love the UAD-1 version! If I had the cash, I would not hesitate to pick one up for the magic they impart on vocal tracks.
I do have a Distresser however, and love it! As mentioned, this thing is so danged versatile! It is incredible what you can accomplish with one.
Do I still want a real LA2? You bet, but as a first comp (as already mentioned), you really can't go wrong here.
I do have a Distresser however, and love it! As mentioned, this thing is so danged versatile! It is incredible what you can accomplish with one.
Do I still want a real LA2? You bet, but as a first comp (as already mentioned), you really can't go wrong here.
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distressor = 2d sound and ability to really distorto in its own way and do lots of cool tricks..does a bunch of things fairly well
la2a = 3d sound much more hi-fi sound..no frills simple beautiful gain control..does one thing really well
the things are completely in different price ranges though..
if you want something that sounds "better" and is more subtle and classic go with the la2a..
its a very philosophical question here..
I'd say if your doing more natural acoustic music the la might be the better choice for you..
I have limited experiece with the LA, I own a distressor..I would love an LA2a
la2a = 3d sound much more hi-fi sound..no frills simple beautiful gain control..does one thing really well
the things are completely in different price ranges though..
if you want something that sounds "better" and is more subtle and classic go with the la2a..
its a very philosophical question here..
I'd say if your doing more natural acoustic music the la might be the better choice for you..
I have limited experiece with the LA, I own a distressor..I would love an LA2a
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I like the way you put this. Although the Distressor is more flexible for leveling, a good LA2A will give you great tone and bring things forward. Considering what you already have, I'd go for the LA2A first...beard_of_bees wrote:distressor = 2d sound and ability to really distorto in its own way and do lots of cool tricks..does a bunch of things fairly well
la2a = 3d sound much more hi-fi sound..no frills simple beautiful gain control..does one thing really well
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totally cool to clarify that stuff..I have little experience with the LA but I can notice the differences in resolution and quality of timbre very well..and its really how these things sound to your ear when you have the right references and start really listening to these things..scott anthony wrote:I like the way you put this. Although the Distressor is more flexible for leveling, a good LA2A will give you great tone and bring things forward. Considering what you already have, I'd go for the LA2A first...beard_of_bees wrote:distressor = 2d sound and ability to really distorto in its own way and do lots of cool tricks..does a bunch of things fairly well
la2a = 3d sound much more hi-fi sound..no frills simple beautiful gain control..does one thing really well
I don't have experience with the LA2A, but i do have experience with the ADL tube comp and I own a Distressor.
The distressor you can really kill and it sounds like you're killing the compressor. I think where it really shines is when you're NOT killing it, however, like on vocals or even bass or acoustic guitar. It has the ability to keep things clean and even.
The ADL is somewhat invisible. It definitely has a "sound" that's really amazing, and the line amps on the thing are HUGE, but i wouldn't use it for like squashing a room because it just distorts in a weird way. Really fantastic when you're not killing it...
ultimately they're two totally separate animals that in my mind could never emulate each other. In terms of versatility, i'd go with the distressor. But in terms of coolness value or not having something that EVERYONE has/having a non-traditional "first good compressor", i'd go for something like the LA2A or the ADL or Red Stripe equivalent.
The distressor you can really kill and it sounds like you're killing the compressor. I think where it really shines is when you're NOT killing it, however, like on vocals or even bass or acoustic guitar. It has the ability to keep things clean and even.
The ADL is somewhat invisible. It definitely has a "sound" that's really amazing, and the line amps on the thing are HUGE, but i wouldn't use it for like squashing a room because it just distorts in a weird way. Really fantastic when you're not killing it...
ultimately they're two totally separate animals that in my mind could never emulate each other. In terms of versatility, i'd go with the distressor. But in terms of coolness value or not having something that EVERYONE has/having a non-traditional "first good compressor", i'd go for something like the LA2A or the ADL or Red Stripe equivalent.
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