Good Size Bass Drum to go w/ 13 and 15" toms?
Good Size Bass Drum to go w/ 13 and 15" toms?
I'm piecing together a kit here and picked up some 13" and 15" Gretsch toms.
I'll probably just go with what I'm able to find at a reasonable price, but for flexibility, and for a small kit, do people generally have 20" kicks or 22" with a 13 and 15" toms? I don't know, I'm not a drummer. I don't have any other toms either (besides another 13" tom) But I think these two 'll do for now
Does it even really matter? I've heard 20" kicks are pretty versatile.
I'll probably just go with what I'm able to find at a reasonable price, but for flexibility, and for a small kit, do people generally have 20" kicks or 22" with a 13 and 15" toms? I don't know, I'm not a drummer. I don't have any other toms either (besides another 13" tom) But I think these two 'll do for now
Does it even really matter? I've heard 20" kicks are pretty versatile.
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We had a thread about kick drum size back in December:
http://messageboard.tapeop.com/viewtopic.php?t=29122
http://messageboard.tapeop.com/viewtopic.php?t=29122
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Now that's my kinda bass drum!Ben Logan wrote:
Seriously though, a 20" would be smaller (obviously) and perhaps more flexible between jazz and acoustic rock. A 22" will serve you well for acoustic rock and harder stuff, and will do fine for jazz though the whiney jazz drummers will never stop complaining. A 24" is where you start pushing your luck for lighter stuff.
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I've got a 20 inch kick with my Ludwig "Clubdate" set - I think it's called a clubdate. That 20 incher is great. I've got a Powerstroke 3 head on that thing. It sounds monsterous - sometimes too monsterous. You can get a big sound out of a small kick, plus a smaller sound out of a smaller kick if you tune it a bit higher up. I'm a hack drummer, so I'm no expert. But, my experience suggests that a 20 inch kick is lots more versatile than say a 24 incher like I used to own with a big rock kit.
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bigger usually sounds better. go for the 22". personally, i'd be looking for a 24". early 70s ludwig, slingerland, gretsch etc. big worked fine for max roach, art blakey, john bonham, et al. little worked well for... just depends on what you want to do with it. for me, a 20" or smaller kick is like throwing up a 16" cymbal. now just why would you do that, unless it's a pair of hi hats?
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very true words you speak. i was trying to be a bit funny while suffering the bitterness of having to buy a very smail cymbal that i dislike for a drummer friend of mine. funniness failed, alcohol won. i've heard small kicks that sound great and big ones that sound terrible and know it's not the size that matters. that's just a mcdonald's marketing ploy...
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Hmmm...Lets see now...Yer gonna be micing the kik drum...even with the 3 mic method...errrrr, then this mic'd sound is gonna be boosted by some piece of gear.....To pretty much ANY loudness and with some tailoring, ANY AMOUNT OF PUNCH ya might need..or not need...
So the real question is which drum size can you contol better?
Its ALWAYS going to be smaller drums and really cool heads are a LOT cheaper for these smaller drums.
I have the old Slingerland 20" set up right now. Its got a great rocking head on it. It simply sounds great. Its easy to tune, its easy to get all the other drums in close around it and still have separation, and its extremely cool to watch drummers reactions when they hear how it sounds on playback...
So the real question is which drum size can you contol better?
Its ALWAYS going to be smaller drums and really cool heads are a LOT cheaper for these smaller drums.
I have the old Slingerland 20" set up right now. Its got a great rocking head on it. It simply sounds great. Its easy to tune, its easy to get all the other drums in close around it and still have separation, and its extremely cool to watch drummers reactions when they hear how it sounds on playback...
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