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Liv Pooleside
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 24, 2011 9:17 pm    Post subject: it's like buying a boat, innit? Reply with quote

1,100 sq ft, cement floor, drywalled walls and ceiling.

27' by 39' by 9'4"



wish me luck...
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 24, 2011 9:23 pm    Post subject: Re: it's like buying a boat, innit? Reply with quote

In the words of Lana Kane: "Yuuuuuuuuuuup!"
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 26, 2011 12:18 pm    Post subject: Re: it's like buying a boat, innit? Reply with quote

good luck!
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 26, 2011 7:54 pm    Post subject: Re: it's like buying a boat, innit? Reply with quote

cool!
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 28, 2011 1:42 pm    Post subject: Re: it's like buying a boat, innit? Reply with quote

"If it floats, flies, or fucks....RENT IT" - Tommy Earl Bruner (more or less)

That said, go for it!
It sets you apart from all the other people that never went for it. Wink
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 29, 2011 11:03 am    Post subject: Re: it's like buying a boat, innit? Reply with quote

not sure if this is what you're referencing, but it came immediately to mind: the old quote, "a boat is really just a hole in the water where you throw money."
and, tell me about it. this summer i started building my first real, dedicated studio - five months later i'm already a grand over budget and still not even close to being ready to set my gear up. my mod list and gearlust are looking more and more to be permanently on hold... but still, it's a great feeling to know that once it's there, never again will i have to worry about a touchy landlord or vindictive breakup messing me up.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 29, 2011 11:56 am    Post subject: Re: it's like buying a boat, innit? Reply with quote

Another boat owner joke: "The two happiest days of a boat owner's life is the day he buys the boat and the day he sells the boat."

It's worse than building a studio, I think. Very Happy
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 01, 2011 4:22 pm    Post subject: Re: it's like buying a boat, innit? Reply with quote

"experience the wonder and excitement of sailboat racing at home. Stand in a cold shower with your clothes on and tear up $100 bills".


I've torn up my own share of $100's trying to keep a 1300 sq.ft. tracking room going for the past 11 years. I wish you better overall luck than I've had...
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Liv Pooleside
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 03, 2011 6:58 am    Post subject: That's it exactly Reply with quote

Thanks for the good wishes.

The first major expense will be the kitchen remodel in the nearby house which for some reason I had to purchase in order to get this. It won't help the acoustics in THIS room, but it will smooth the response when me and the missus move in there.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 03, 2011 2:29 pm    Post subject: Re: it's like buying a boat, innit? Reply with quote

Break
Out
Another
Thousand ... heh...

That said, I just had my first built-out garage stall studio fully demolished because we are redoing the whole garage roof and it was in the way. As soon as the "real" builders are gone, I'm totally going to build out another space with insulation and electric heat just like before. Except this time I'm going to use less material (eg 24 inch on center studs, not 16, since I'm not bothering with inspectors and permits anyway) and I'm not going to let it fill up with crap I never use.

So if you are looking for advice, that's mine: 1. don't overbuild it, just get walls up so they will insulate noise and temperatures without falling over; and don't let it fill up with junk. Be very judicious about what you bring in there. It's not much fun taking all the junk out of there someday. Cheers

EDIT: oh man. Your available space is way bigger than mine. You probably will want to observe building codes and whatnot. Mine, I'm building with the goal of it NOT ever being deemed a habitable "bedroom" (our garage is attached to the house) and also the goal of being able to demolish it easily in a day if we decide to move away, which is probably ultimately inevitable anyway if we live long enough.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 05, 2011 8:06 pm    Post subject: Re: it's like buying a boat, innit? Reply with quote

This used to be a contractor's shop and "play room," where his hobby was painting motorcycles. It's just about everything you could ask for in raw space- snug, well built, about 100' from the nearest residents.

The down side is that it's less than a mile from a busy interstate. I've yet to record there (other than some ambient recordings to establish a baseline), but inside with everything shut tight the traffic noise is there.

My basement studio had three things going for it- it was acoustically isolated from outside noise, it was fairly easy to heat (just turn on all the equipment and a couple of lights), and it had lots of joists and pipes to hang stuff from!

This new space already sounds better WITH all the junk I've moved in- never underestimate the value of random objects for diffraction. I'll have to deal with the liveness and with the street noise on a budget- but it's going to be fun!
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 09, 2011 9:52 am    Post subject: Re: it's like buying a boat, innit? Reply with quote

>>>>The down side is that it's less than a mile from a busy interstate. I've yet to record there (other than some ambient recordings to establish a baseline), but inside with everything shut tight the traffic noise is there.<<<<

We have space in an old industrial building, with tracking room windows facing a fairly major/busy road (day and night). We thought about window plugs; haven't got a roundtuit yet... Was thinking through all kinds of schemes for window microphones for phase reversal, etc., etc. But the reality is, you can't hear the traffic noise in the tracks (even though you can sometimes hear it on the phones). Not with bass, drums, and guitar.

Vocals and voice-over is something else entirely, which is why we built a little "open vocal booth" (padded area in the corner of the back room behind a closed door): problem solved. With proper treatment, the corner isn't a problem, and with space and wood between the street and the mike, it's all good.

It either won't bother you at all, or you'll find a way around it.

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 09, 2011 3:00 pm    Post subject: Re: it's like buying a boat, innit? Reply with quote

Gregg Juke wrote:
. We thought about window plugs; haven't got a roundtuit yet...


they make a big difference. but yeah, if you're tracking a rock band, the traffic noise is gonna be inconsequential. ambient noise is annoying on vocals though, if you like lots of compression. which i (and most singers) do.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 14, 2011 3:53 am    Post subject: Re: it's like buying a boat, innit? Reply with quote

My place is across the street from Boeing Field in Seattle. I built a burly iso booth for the quiet stuff, and for late night loud guitar tracking. I track drums and other instruments out in the main room. Haven't had a problem with airplanes, or large trucks going in and out of the airport yet!

But its all rock and roll!

You'll be fine. What a great space to build out!
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 14, 2011 8:47 am    Post subject: Re: it's like buying a boat, innit? Reply with quote

trodden wrote:


But its all rock and roll!



You brute!
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