Neil Young sez: "Piracy is the new radio."

[Galen Ulrich Elfert]

[fossiltooth]

[rogersbarton]

Piracy= Theft
Theft= Crime

[roscoenyc]

[zorf]

i'm with him as well.

However;

jaywalking = crime

the point being that there are many types and levels of actions that could be considered "crime", and they change from country to country, culture to culture, era to era, etc.
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[Galen Ulrich Elfert]

[Brian]

This is what the major labels started and use to destroy the small labels that wouldn't die and their competition, then it kept going and they kept reaping, but to keep reaping they had to lower $$$$ output to stupid levels, like they didn't already do that in he eighties with Polygrams 360 deals.
INFINITELY WORSE is the acts that DID sign with them after the New Music Seminar had their "spokes A & R gal" go to be a panelist touting how great it was to have this deal with Polygram. And they went to CMJ and countless other "recruiting" seminars with the same spiel.

They want people to convince you via boards that the 360 deal is the new model, 360 meaning they take money from all aspects of your income with little or no investment monetarily or intellectually.
They also want people to convince you that this is a fan driven event.
They also want people to convince you that there is nothing you can do about it.
They want to convince you not to have an audit clause.
They want young attractive and desperate narcissists who NEEEEED fame to desperately sign these shit deals so they can get to screwing them.

They do NOT care about talent or quality. I know because I've had to deal with them when all this shit started way back when. The crap I heard come out of people's mouths, you would NOT believe.


ALL of this kind of stuff came into being during the dance act craze in the early 80's, they were easily manipulated, had no savvy, and were thus CHEAP, then came the DJ 's, same thing, then the RAP groups, also recording funds under $10k, then the labels decided they could make records that just really cost more to deliver the quality and ran their budgets down and started taking publishing money for nothing in return, and it was THE LABELS who used piracy as a tool to destroy each other, and now use it to destroy independent musicians instead of seeking and developing talent.
And here we are, with this video, crying in our cheerios, with no one to blame.
STRIKE!

Google /Youtube have a bot that they do deploy on major label material that they think they can still sell so that if you upload it, it will not post.
Indies can't afford Google/Youtube's price to use it so they get stuck with piracy and no sales.
You see how the game is illegally rigged against the independent artists?

You cant afford to have the bot they they should not be charging to use under any circumstance if they are making a nickel off any sight that doesn't have it deployed and thus you are destroyed by the majors, who can afford the bot, the people to torrent link your stuff, & the servers for the pirates,. They basically destroy any safe market to do business in and turn it into a lawless atmosphere so that you can't.
They were the money behind the ANTI SOPA propaganda.
They fooled everyone.
They should now be put in prison.
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[ALFweeks]

I visited S.E.Asia recently and whilst in The Philippines I was shocked and dismayed at how easy it is to sell pirated movies and music there. I saw stalls and even shops selling this shit, even next to a police outpost. There was no control of it there. Almost every street corner had some scruffy looking scrote flogging this shit, openly.

[fossiltooth]

From here:

http://trustmeimascientist.com/2012/04/02/take-our-audio-poll-do-we-need-higher-definition-sound/
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[rogersbarton]

Unfortunately Asia is a hotbed of video (and music) piracy. Local and national governments seem unable or unwilling to stamp down on it.

[jackson park]

i only skimmed through all this reading and think it's interesting, but i was surprised not to see any mention of the whole VHS copying thing OR the radiohead/louis ck model of paying directly.

technology and convenience and money are bigger than music.

p.s. I don't use spotify because they don't have everything on there (especially older stuff from my limited experience) and it feels like i'm listening to music through a filter. Not fidelity, just the whole idea of being bombarded by recommendations and "check out this" and "this is what your friends like!" and all that is just annoying and has no part being integrated into every music experience.

[lancebug]

[ALFweeks]

I have seen pirated music and movies being sold openly in MBK, a huge mall in Bangkok, Thailand. I'd hate to see what it is like in China.

[KendricK]

[zorf]

i was told by someone who just got back from hong kong that the prices on pirated dvds
are not that cheap anymore.
you can buy pirated dvds here in the states for the same price.
no direct info on mainland prices.

Also, IIRC radiohead was dissapointed by the small number of people who could be bothered to pay anything at all for their donation experiment.
And they were already well established. that's maybe why no one else has tried it since?

one small difference with vhs copies was generation loss. you had a round trip trough two sets of converters.
Also, you needed two decks, and you had to copy in real time.
Not big hurdles, but nothing like tapping your phone to send music to a million
people instantly.
Maybe instead of tacking on a fee to the media, like they did in the vhs/ cassette/ blank cd days,
they should tack on a small fee to phones/laptops/drives to create a money pool for content creators?
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