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Post by analogika » Tue Feb 03, 2015 5:46 am

doubler wrote:Thanks Analogika but it certainly is not a TR-808.
I don't have the original song, and the YouTube link you posted is blocked here, so I'm going by this instrumental version:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uz2nUVrui70

which is a TR-808.

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Post by doubler » Tue Feb 03, 2015 11:40 am

Thanks all.

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Post by analogika » Tue Feb 03, 2015 2:32 pm

If the sounds on the original are the same as in the YouTube Link I gave above, it is a TR-808 for the bass drum, sidestick, hi-hats and snare. I own one.

The 808 is apparently mixed with some beats sampled from Trouble Funk's "Saturday Night In the Park".

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http://www.songfacts.com/detail.php?id=27997

"Along with Rubin and his DJ, Cut Creator, LL used a 808 drum machine to form the basis for this track, mixing in a guitar scratch sampled from the AC/DC song "Flick The Switch" and some synth from the song "Rocket In my Pocket" by Cerrone (Electro-Disco producer Jean-Marc Cerrone). Beats from the Trouble Funk song "Saturday Night In the Park" were also sampled on the track."

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Post by analogika » Tue Feb 03, 2015 3:00 pm

This is the percussion sample from Trouble Funk (it's actually off the "Saturday Night Live From Washington D.C." album):

http://www.whosampled.com/sample/17082/ ... .C.-Pt.-2/

The remainder of the beat is definitely, positively, and absolutely, a Roland TR-808.

Compare:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J_coVK7QgjE

Sidestick comes in around 1:50. No toms used on the LL Cool J track.

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Post by The Scum » Tue Feb 03, 2015 10:35 pm

Analogica,

Your link is definitely 808. But if you read the video notes, the poster says:
Note : This sound recording is NOT the property of Def Jam nor Columbia records. This version was made in the privacy of my own home with the original sources and programmed on my 808.
So it's not the original.

But there's this version, also, which does feature Mr Cool J:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZyswjkZJugI

Also 808, but not the track in the orig post. Sounds like the twin cousin of DMC's Peter Piper.

Is the one in question perhaps not the original (though the youtube title indicates that)? And also possible the the dates are out of order, so the "original" is somewhat newer?

Theory perhaps comfirmed here:
http://www.rollingstone.com/music/lists ... s-19691231

Or here:
http://www.whosampled.com/remix/38790/L ... ersion%29/

The yellow arrow seems to indicate that "Original" is actually the remix?

So SR-16, R8, SP-12 or Yammy might not be totally out of the question.
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Post by The Scum » Wed Feb 04, 2015 10:28 am

In the cruel light of morning, a contender emerges:

Obie DMX.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oberheim_DMX
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Post by analogika » Wed Feb 04, 2015 10:30 am

If it's a "carbon copy" of DMC's Peter Piper, then yes, it's a DX or DMX. Raising Hell is all Oberheim.

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Post by The Scum » Wed Feb 04, 2015 2:10 pm

I dunno. Peter Piper and Dumb Girl are pretty 808-ish to my ears.

Perfection was a live drummer, wasn't it?
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Post by analogika » Wed Feb 04, 2015 2:23 pm

Sorry. Peter Piper is an 808. "It's Tricky" and "Walk this Way" are DMX/DX.

"Perfection" is a live drummer, compressed to hell. :)

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Post by doubler » Sun Apr 05, 2015 1:42 am

Hey guys, still no luck.
Any other machines that came out before or in 1985 that might have been used?
Maybe something obscure or some specific non stock Eproms?

Thanks.

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Post by doubler » Sun Apr 05, 2015 3:21 am

The Scum wrote:Analogica,

Your link is definitely 808. But if you read the video notes, the poster says:
Note : This sound recording is NOT the property of Def Jam nor Columbia records. This version was made in the privacy of my own home with the original sources and programmed on my 808.
So it's not the original.

But there's this version, also, which does feature Mr Cool J:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZyswjkZJugI

Also 808, but not the track in the orig post. Sounds like the twin cousin of DMC's Peter Piper.

Is the one in question perhaps not the original (though the youtube title indicates that)? And also possible the the dates are out of order, so the "original" is somewhat newer?

Theory perhaps comfirmed here:
http://www.rollingstone.com/music/lists ... s-19691231

Or here:
http://www.whosampled.com/remix/38790/L ... ersion%29/

The yellow arrow seems to indicate that "Original" is actually the remix?

So SR-16, R8, SP-12 or Yammy might not be totally out of the question.
Thanks. The original version didn't make the album. It was on the 12". It is older than the album version.

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Post by Gregg Juke » Thu Apr 09, 2015 8:52 am

Non-critical side-note-- I don't think the SR-16 came out until the 90s. The HR-16 and 16B, however...

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