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PostPosted: Sun Aug 21, 2016 1:09 am    Post subject: How not to be a Ebog seller Reply with quote

So I bid onna Tech 21 Trademark 10, and someone messages me with a phone #.  I refuse to call it, and sit on my offer, which expires.
Then, I get a Ebay message that if I want it for the offer I made, they will sell it, and so I paypal US$260 on August 10, with delivery to be by August 18.
No shipping info is ever posted.

The messages are below:
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You made your best offer and now it's up to the seller. We hope you get it.

Tech 21 Trademark 60 60 watt Guitar Amp With footswitch
Tech 21 Trademark 60 60 watt Guitar Amp With footswitch
Buy It Now price:
$325.00Buy It Now
Your offer price: $210.00
Your terms: --
Offer expires: Aug-09-16 09:05:29 PDT
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New message from: esgr
HELLO IF YOU ARE STILL INTERESTED IN THE TECH 21 TRADEMARK 60 WOULD YOU PLEASE GIVE ME A SHOUT AT 6 1 5 9 6 4 3*** 6PM-1AM E.S.T.THANKS EDDIE
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I am still interested, at the amount I offered.
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OKAY WELL CALL AND SPEAK TO EDDIE
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Hi mmmeeevvv. No one likes to be ignored - we get that. Choose to buy it now or check out our similar suggestions.
Tech 21 Trademark 60 60 watt Guitar Amp With footswitch
Your offer: $210.00 (expired)
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New message from: luckylenny-0 (14Yellow Star)
I wasn't able to get to your offer. The amp works perfect and really sounds excellent. If you still want the amp make another offer.. the next highest bid possible and I will accept it Lenny
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I just re-offered 210, thanx.

Tech 21 Trademark 60 60 watt Guitar Amp With footswitch
Tech 21 Trademark 60 60 watt Guitar Amp With footswitch
Buy It Now price:
$325.00Buy It Now
Your offer price: $210.00
Your terms: --
Offer expires: Aug-12-16 03:04:42 PDT
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New message from: luckylenny-0 (14Yellow Star)
Hey Michael OK I accepted the 210 Good deal Thanks Lenny
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Paid, thanx.
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[8-19]
I have not received this - do you have shipping info?

Tech 21 Trademark 60 60 watt Guitar Amp With footswitch
Tech 21 Trademark 60 60 watt Guita
Order status: Paid
Paid $260.00 with PAYPAL on Aug 10, 2016 13:51 PDT
Estimated delivery: Tue. Aug. 16 - Fri. Aug. 19
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[8-20]
Still haven't received.
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New message from: luckylenny-0 (16Yellow Star)
Hey Michael I will be bk home Sunday eve and email you the tracking info. Lenny
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You have had my money for 10 days and now want another 2 to send shipping info?
That info should have been provided already.
Too many times, sellers have attempted to burn me, use my money as a loan, etc.
If item is not received today, I will demand a refund.
Business is business.
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Tech 21 Trademark 60 60 watt Guitar Amp With footswitch
Item # : XXX
Sale price: $210.00
Quantity: 1
Sale date: Aug-10-16 11:20:27 PDT
Seller: luckylenny-0
Case #: XXX
Case opened: Aug-20-16 15:07:02 PDT
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New message from: luckylenny-0 (16Yellow Star)
If the amp has not been shipped I will gladly refund your payment. IAs I said I will be bk home Sunday eve. and will see whats up. Oh yea by the way I don't need a loan. Lenny
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New message to: luckylenny-0
Glad you don't need a loan - but you need both a lesson in attitude, and professionalism.
From my point of view, at this point, you are a thief; you have my money, and I don't have what you claimed to sell me.
And because the item has not been received in a timely manner, I don't want it.
Further, I do not wish to do business with someone like you who doesn't take responsibility for their actions, and then attacks me, the customer, for seeking information and a completed transaction.
Refund my money, now.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 21, 2016 11:00 am    Post subject: Re: How not to be a Ebog seller Reply with quote

OK, more:

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New message from: luckylenny-0 (16Yellow Star)
I'm attacking you?? Where? what? I'm attacking you?

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New message from: luckylenny-0 (16Yellow Star)
OH AND BY THE WAY I DONT APPRECIATE BEING CALLED A THIEF YOU ARE ATTACKING ME!!
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New message to: luckylenny-0
You have a bad and snarky attitude, and my money.
You'll be a good guy when I get it back.
In the meantime ..
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 22, 2016 7:13 am    Post subject: Re: How not to be a Ebog seller Reply with quote

Gee, Monday AM, 6:10, still no shipping info; imagine that.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 22, 2016 2:19 pm    Post subject: Re: How not to be a Ebog seller Reply with quote

Stop buying stuff on EvilBay.

I mean, unless you are a sucker, or a masochist.

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 22, 2016 5:11 pm    Post subject: Re: How not to be a Ebog seller Reply with quote

Yeah man. Have you heard of Craigslist? It's like Ebay, only awesome!
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 22, 2016 11:33 pm    Post subject: Re: How not to be a Ebog seller Reply with quote

New message from: luckylenny-0 (16Yellow Star)
Hey Michael I just got up and am about 6 hrs from home and will find out why you don't have the amp.... I will get you bk your payment as soon as I know the amp has not been shipped. I am sorry for the aggravation but would like to now what I said that you considered an attack PLEASE let me know.. check the email I sent you before you stated this PLEASE let me know what you considered an attack.
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I do not want a dialogue - I want my money back.
Shipped or not, it is not timely sent, it has not been received, and I want my money back.
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Good news! We let the seller know you didn't receive the item, and the seller issued you a full refund. This request is now closed.
Refund information:
A full refund of $260.00 was issued on Aug 22, 2016. The refund includes the purchase price plus original shipping and was issued to the same payment method you used to pay for the item.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 22, 2016 11:38 pm    Post subject: Re: How not to be a Ebog seller Reply with quote

I hear you guys! That is, I believe my 10th issue in 330-some purchases, so about 1% have been a problem.

I do use C/L, of course, but it's much more limited when I'm looking for something in particular.

In this instance, I wanted a lightweight but loud amp. Since I have a Trademark 10 and like it, I thought I'd try for the Tm60.

I did, BTW, buy a different amp, a Vox Night Train 50HG2, and offa the Ebog, good pricer, condition and fast delivery.

It's just that there are bad sellers out there, and I seem to find 'em.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 23, 2016 7:03 am    Post subject: Re: How not to be a Ebog seller Reply with quote

Here's his last, to what I won't respond altho' be assured, "communication" alone gets him a negative rating:

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New message from: luckylenny-0 (16Yellow Star)
Michael Money refunded There was a problem with the amp so it was not shipped. I can only say I am sorry for the problems but I am glad it was retested before it was just shipped out not working properly. The amp is being repaired. Sincerely Lenny
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 23, 2016 1:32 pm    Post subject: Re: How not to be a Ebog seller Reply with quote

That amp is awesome, I hope you get it.

I never found much use for the "dirty-tubey" 2nd channel, but channel 1 rules, the reverb is great, and the built-in Sansamp DI is indispensable!
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 23, 2016 2:43 pm    Post subject: Re: How not to be a Ebog seller Reply with quote

I have the TM10, like it a lot around the house, and for recording, not loud enuff for using with a drummer.

I bought a Vox Night Train 50 HG2, instead of the TM60 that the dooshie seller never even shipped, gave me attitude for asking about, and finally refunded after 13 days.

I really like the NT, but may still look for another TM60 if only to see if it is giggable for sketchy jams (ex., below 0 or raining, etc.).
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 24, 2016 1:15 pm    Post subject: Re: How not to be a Ebog seller Reply with quote

vvv wrote:
Here's his last, to what I won't respond altho' be assured, "communication" alone gets him a negative rating:

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New message from: luckylenny-0 (16Yellow Star)
Michael Money refunded There was a problem with the amp so it was not shipped. I can only say I am sorry for the problems but I am glad it was retested before it was just shipped out not working properly. The amp is being repaired. Sincerely Lenny


So what was Lenny/Eddie's Positive Feedback rating prior to your transaction? I try not to deal with anyone with <99%, or 100% if fewer than 100 transactions.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 24, 2016 2:43 pm    Post subject: Re: How not to be a Ebog seller Reply with quote

16 sales, 100%.

It peeves me that, having made the refund, I canna give him a bad review on the Ebog, but I reckon that is an incentive for jerks like this to "work it out."

And mebbe he's not a jerk but just an inefficient snarky smart-arse with no understanding of business, professionalism or commerce, but ...

Naw, he was a jerk, being all disingenuous and manipulative, and using my money for two weeks.

Looking at his profile, he's likely a music equip dealer; I, of course, do not recommend him.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 24, 2016 9:32 pm    Post subject: Re: How not to be a Ebog seller Reply with quote

I have had maybe 2 transactions go bad on Ebay (out of 150+) and both times I got my money back from Ebay/PayPal. But I prefer the face-to-face of CL or Kijiji. Sorry for your experience but at least you are not out of pocket.
Now what really peeves me about Ebay is the unnecessary cross-border costs that get tacked on in Canada-USA transactions...
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 20, 2016 1:40 pm    Post subject: Re: How not to be a Ebog seller Reply with quote

Just realized I never closed this story.

I was finally able to leave feedback, and got a typically dooshie response, also.

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Negative feedback rating Held my money 2 weeks then admitted never shipped - disngenuous, snarky attitude

Seller: luckylenny-0 (Yellow star icon for feedback score in between 10 to 49) During past month
Reply by luckylenny-0 (Sep-08-16 20:06):
PROBLEM W ITEM BUYER WAS ACCUSING & NOT REASONABLE SO RETURNED THE PAYMENT ASAP
-- (#131899475883)

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Just found the amp is re-listed, no mention of the alleged required repairs. (I ended up with a Vox Night Train 50, BTW.)

So, screww you! luckylenny-0
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