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PostPosted: Tue Dec 06, 2016 9:29 pm    Post subject: What is this thing from Valentine? Reply with quote

In the Valentine writeup in the current issue (very cool! ), the top photo on page 45 shows a little platform made of glass or lexan or similar covering part of the left side of the mixer. What is this called/ where could I find one?
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 07, 2016 6:05 pm    Post subject: Re: What is this thing from Valentine? Reply with quote

I remember seeing platforms like that for Lexicon 480 remotes. Usually on an SSL. I've never seen one specifically sold for such purposes. I'd assume they're custom made since console sizes vary so much. I don't know materials or anything. Lucite? Acrylic?

A place like this might be a start.
http://www.tapplastics.com/product/plastics/cut_to_size_plastic
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https://www.displaycasej.com/risers_and_platforms.html
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 07, 2016 6:45 pm    Post subject: Re: What is this thing from Valentine? Reply with quote

I haven't seen the picture you're referring to, but I do know a lot of people will just rest something flat across the knobs on a console for various purposes (computer keyboard, mouse pad, snorting coke, etc.). (Are you sure the thing you're looking at has feet?) I think they're relying on the "bed of nails" principle that if it rests equally on a bunch of knobs it won't tweak any of them too badly. It strikes me as problematic, but I've done it a few times with no discernible ill effects. Using something clear makes sense so you can still see what the settings are.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 07, 2016 8:26 pm    Post subject: Re: What is this thing from Valentine? Reply with quote

Thanks for the links. I'm sure I could diy something, but it's a little outside my typical project and I didn't know what to call it or what materials to use that wouldn't scratch/break too easily. This should give me a starting point.
Maybe I could get a sheet for the platform and two 1" or 1.5" strips the same width for risers, then tap and countersink some holes to screw them together. It would be nice to have that one piece rounded edge though, especially in front.
I just built two racks that have horizontal-ish top bays, been playing with ideas for something that can double as worksurfaces/ dustcovers and this feels perfect.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 08, 2016 8:18 am    Post subject: Re: What is this thing from Valentine? Reply with quote

Snarl 12/8 wrote:
It strikes me as problematic, but I've done it a few times with no discernible ill effects.


Dude, admit nothing.

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 08, 2016 2:32 pm    Post subject: Re: What is this thing from Valentine? Reply with quote

I've heard it called a "score trolley" or "script trolley," depending whether you're in a music or post studio. They do ride above the controls, because you wouldn't want to have it accidentally change any settings on a union scoring session.

I've no idea where they come from, and google isn't helping. Neve and SSL ones do indeed have little wheels that run in tracks on the console frame.

You can get sheets of lexan & plexiglass at Homer/Lowes. I know you can soften and bend plexi with a heat gun or oven.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 08, 2016 9:03 pm    Post subject: Re: What is this thing from Valentine? Reply with quote

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Snarl 12/8 wrote:
It strikes me as problematic, but I've done it a few times with no discernible ill effects.


Dude, admit nothing.

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I meant the coke, btw.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 09, 2016 2:10 pm    Post subject: Re: What is this thing from Valentine? Reply with quote

Eh, OK.

But my advice stands stronger than ever, me thinks.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 09, 2016 3:03 pm    Post subject: Re: What is this thing from Valentine? Reply with quote

Is plexiglass, erm, nostril friendly?
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 09, 2016 4:15 pm    Post subject: Re: What is this thing from Valentine? Reply with quote

floid wrote:
Is plexiglass, erm, nostril friendly?


Dragons, man. It's all dragons. But, er, yeah, but the razor blades scratch the fuck out of it. Now, what was I doing?
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 10, 2016 7:34 pm    Post subject: Re: What is this thing from Valentine? Reply with quote

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I've heard it called a "score trolley" or "script trolley," depending whether you're in a music or post studio. They do ride above the controls, because you wouldn't want to have it accidentally change any settings on a union scoring session.


In the theatre world it's called a "script tray". Some are custom, some are manufactured. Really it depends on how popular a console is in that world. But they do tend to have little wheels that usually run in slots or tracks or whatever so you can roll it out of the way to access that part of the board quickly.

These days it's 99% of the time on a digital console, and the show mixer (aka board op) is mixing on the VCA faders and hitting the scene "next" button fairly often. There's even a thing about practicing a new show on a dummy fader box so you can learn the moves when you haven't gotten access to the console yet.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 10, 2016 7:36 pm    Post subject: Re: What is this thing from Valentine? Reply with quote

(it's really quite an experience to see a professional Broadway style mixer at work. They will actively mix down to the word or even syllable once they've learned the show. They wear out VCA faders the way rap DJ's wear out the crossfader)
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 10, 2016 11:24 pm    Post subject: Re: What is this thing from Valentine? Reply with quote

Bingo! That term got me to some more detailed pics on that other site, you know, the one w/ ... dragons. Some nice ideas though, that got the wheels spinning.
The local Lowe's only has thinner plexiglass stock, kind of high too. Monday i'm gonna check with the local glass shop to see what they have and if they can do the bending for me. A proper plastic bending rig is pricey for a one-off project; I think a homebrew rig using my heatgun would likely waste a bunch of stock learning how to get good results. So if they can't do it I'm thinking I might just use some 1/4" aluminum u-channel and switch to a squared away design.
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