Digital Anti-Compressor
Digital Anti-Compressor
I want something that takes quiet passages and makes them louder (roughly and simply, not for a finished product), while not doing anything to the louder parts, like a compressor in reverse. I know it's not an expander, that expands the dynamic range of the loud parts, so what is it, or how can it be achieved?
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I might be totally misunderstanding what's going on, but to my ears the dbx 118 does this in linear mode - threshold acts like a center of dynamic range, so moving it around affects whether you're pulling down the loud bits, pulling up the quiet bits, or some of both. It's how I started thinking about it anyway, kind of opened up how I use it. There's a sweet spot in there where switching modes is more of a tonal shift, useful for creating movement without changing the overall sound too drastically.
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Sorry, I should have said I was trying to do his in the box. It's just some recordings of rehearsals, I want to bring the quiet bits up, so I can hear them better. The loud parts are OK, and probably already a little compressed by the recorder itself. I wondered if there was some kind of thing that could normalize quiet parts and leave the rest?
The previous statement is from a guy who records his own, and other projects for fun. No money is made.
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The only thing I can think of is something Like Waves Vocal Rider with is just "ghost" automation. I don't know if there is anything similar by any other company.
I feel like there's a way to do this by sidechaining some stuff but I can't figure it out right now. I haven't even showered yet.
I feel like there's a way to do this by sidechaining some stuff but I can't figure it out right now. I haven't even showered yet.
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OK, what I've done is this:
1. Take the track, make a duplicate track, Invert it.
2. Gate the inverted duplicate track.
3. Mix with original.
So far what I have is a very tinny sounding quiet loud parts, and clear quiet parts, I'm going to play with the settings until it's no loud part, and then mix it back with the original.
1. Take the track, make a duplicate track, Invert it.
2. Gate the inverted duplicate track.
3. Mix with original.
So far what I have is a very tinny sounding quiet loud parts, and clear quiet parts, I'm going to play with the settings until it's no loud part, and then mix it back with the original.
The previous statement is from a guy who records his own, and other projects for fun. No money is made.
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I was bored so I did a test in Logic. It's a rough idea but might be ok for reference listening.
Route the track to 3 busses (A, B, C) all with the same gate and whatever plugin to invert phase on one (C). B and C will cancel each other out. Set the Gate on C to close on the quiet part and that section should play through. Bring in Bus A (about 12 db down) to fill in the loss when B and C cancel out. Just remember to have all the same plugins to make sure there's no latency.
I'm sure I explained it poorly but is seems to work well here.
Route the track to 3 busses (A, B, C) all with the same gate and whatever plugin to invert phase on one (C). B and C will cancel each other out. Set the Gate on C to close on the quiet part and that section should play through. Bring in Bus A (about 12 db down) to fill in the loss when B and C cancel out. Just remember to have all the same plugins to make sure there's no latency.
I'm sure I explained it poorly but is seems to work well here.
"If there's one ironclad rule of pop history, it's this: The monkey types Hamlet only once."
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