let's talk about kick drum mics
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curious about that Miktek. looks an awful lot like the Heil PR40, but that could be where the similarities end?
I really like the Heil for faster stuff, the e602 as well. They both just seem to lack low end heft (even if i boost the hell out of it with EQ with a Pultec boost/cut thing) that I want for slower or more mid tempo stuff/parts.
For tracking last week, I paired a Beta 91 with an RE20. The 602 felt a little anemic. Sending the Beta 52 back to Shure next week.
I really like the Heil for faster stuff, the e602 as well. They both just seem to lack low end heft (even if i boost the hell out of it with EQ with a Pultec boost/cut thing) that I want for slower or more mid tempo stuff/parts.
For tracking last week, I paired a Beta 91 with an RE20. The 602 felt a little anemic. Sending the Beta 52 back to Shure next week.
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with your 602 - do you have the original or the "II" version ?permanent hearing damage wrote:curious about that Miktek. looks an awful lot like the Heil PR40, but that could be where the similarities end?
I really like the Heil for faster stuff, the e602 as well. They both just seem to lack low end heft (even if i boost the hell out of it with EQ with a Pultec boost/cut thing) that I want for slower or more mid tempo stuff/parts.
For tracking last week, I paired a Beta 91 with an RE20. The 602 felt a little anemic. Sending the Beta 52 back to Shure next week.
My 602 (not the "II") doesn't lack lows but you definitely could say it sounds anemic in general compared to a more even response'd mic but it's in the mids where it self EQs appropriately for a modern kick sound..
the "II" version apparently has a "more aggressively sculpted EQ curve"
It's good to note in this thread when people say "their 602" they might be talking about completely different mics
602 original = 550 grams / 250 Ohms / HF boost +8, 2-15kHz / LF peak 80Hz / Cardioid (1 mV/Pa; 20 - 16,000 Hz
602 II = 318 grams / 350 Ohms / HF boost +16dB, 5.5?12kHz / LF peak 60Hz / Cardioid 0.9 mV/Pa; 20 - 16,000 Hz
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no useie here though here's a shootout with it along side more common ones
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yj7fBmeYsAA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yj7fBmeYsAA
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my 602 (first version) scoops the mids has good lows and click and sounds very punchy - in contrast with the RE-20 it reproduces a kick's fundamental much farther down - with those two mics it sounds like different drums - the RE-20 is much more natural sounding and is a better representation of reality when blended with the rest of the mics - the 602 gives more of a cartoon or caricature version of the drum
both great for different goals
both great for different goals
ATM25's are still available new
Although ATM25's are listed as "Discontinued" on the US Audio Technica website they have always been (and still are) available brand new from Audio Technica in Japan.
Quite a number of Japanese stores sell them online.
I purchased one along with a friend about 18 months ago.
They are the genuine article.
I don't know why the ATM25 ceased becoming available outside of Japan?
Quite a number of Japanese stores sell them online.
I purchased one along with a friend about 18 months ago.
They are the genuine article.
I don't know why the ATM25 ceased becoming available outside of Japan?
Re: ATM25's are still available new
So, you are no longer lonely when recording drums, eh?
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