listening to your own songs

dungeonsound615 · Posted: Sat Apr 03, 2004 6:05 pm Post subject: listening to your own songs

SO Im supposed to meet up with a potential bass player this week to start up a band. SO i decided to record my songs so that after we get together he would have something to take home and practice along to. So not speaking recording wise just song wise. IS anyone like me and after the ywrite a song record and listen back just think that everything they write sounds like crap. I mean i played the songs with a drummer and he said he liked them he is my potential drummer but just myself thinks there nto that good can anyone relate.
Mike

dungeonsound615 · Posted: Sat Apr 03, 2004 6:10 pm Post subject: Re: listening to your own songs

Oh i should ad these are pop punk songs like screeching weasel, naked raygun, the jam that kinda thing.

Albro Swift · Posted: Sat Apr 03, 2004 6:19 pm Post subject: Re: listening to your own songs

dungeonsound615 · Posted: Sat Apr 03, 2004 7:21 pm Post subject: Re: listening to your own songs

Yea i guess im always questioning my lyrics, the arangements, and if i should add a solo here or a different chord, or even change the rythem of the sog completly i can never just settle on something when it comes to writing a song of my own

joeysimms · Posted: Sat Apr 03, 2004 7:30 pm Post subject: Re: listening to your own songs

Welcome to songwriting!
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tiger vomitt · Posted: Sat Apr 03, 2004 8:28 pm Post subject: Re: listening to your own songs

im the same way.. every time i put together a demo i totally hate it all.

but when i work on stuff individually im into it.

maybe it's the concentrated examination that makes me dislike it during those times. like im looking so closely at all this stuff ive done, that i start to over-question everything.

BigCats · gimme a little kick & snare Joined: 28 Dec 2003 Posts: 76

Welcome to songwriting indeed! Wait - ya want a real shocker, get ready for the first time someone pulls a tape off of the board at one of your shows.

This is why I love the magic of the home studio without the PITA of having to have a band. You can shelve stuf until later and not have your bass player wanting to play it over and over because he sounds so "great" on it. I generally work it out like this - get an idea, record a scratch version, listen obsessively trying to work out an arrangement, decide I suck, put it away, come back three months later, decide the track is worth working on and get some real work done.

Now those moments when I decide my whole approach to writing sucks are a different issue entirely . . .

K

BTW - kudos on the Screeching Weasels reference. Greatest punk band no one ever heard. What - no Effigies influences? Remember Special Affect and that whole sick O'Bannion's/Exit, etc. scene. Ah - my mis-spent youth.

**mjau** · Posted: Sat Apr 03, 2004 11:22 pm Post subject: Re: listening to your own songs

Yeah, I've found musicians to be either:
their own worst critics, or
their biggest fans

I'm in the first category, but it's constructive, and I've realized that nothing is perfect. Play to your strengths, understand your weaknesses, and just keep at it...
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Bear · Posted: Sun Apr 04, 2004 3:37 am Post subject: Re: listening to your own songs

I always feel uncomfortable listening to my own music. Especially if other people are around. Unless it's something funny. Then I'm fine.
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bobbydj · Posted: Sun Apr 04, 2004 6:46 am Post subject: Re: listening to your own songs

For four million five hundred and thirty three thousand one hundred and twenty eight years I was in mjau's former category. But these days I get less angsty about it all. Mostly, I never listen to my own stuff (past or present), but occasionally I do. Sometimes I like it, sometimes I don't. Every now and again I love it - but that's rare. Suffice to say, it's those moments I try and focus on. Despite all this I'm currently going through a 'hate everything I ever touched' crisis. They're periodic, highly demoralisng and vastly shitty. SO DON'T FUCKING CROSS ME GUYS OR I WILL IMPLODE ALL OVER YOUR IKEA FLOORING OK?!?
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joeysimms · Posted: Sun Apr 04, 2004 9:57 am Post subject: Re: listening to your own songs

* scurries to cover up IKEA flooring with old Beatles and Tommy Roe albums ...*
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bobbydj · Posted: Sun Apr 04, 2004 11:41 am Post subject: Re: listening to your own songs

[nasally tannoy voice]Implosion T minus 60 and counting[/nasally tannoy voice]

Mic me up!! Mic me UP guys!!
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**mjau** · Posted: Sun Apr 04, 2004 1:46 pm Post subject: Re: listening to your own songs

It's phases for me too...mostly I like my own stuff when I'm recording it, and within a few days afterward. It starts to get stale after a few weeks, and if I give myself months, then I listen to it and hear only mistakes and things I wish I had done better.
At a point, you reach what I'll call the Mascis Equilibrium...you quit trying to sound like someone else, and just say "fuck it, I'm me" and try to maximize your own qualities. It's definitely more original that way.
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dungeonsound615 · Posted: Sun Apr 04, 2004 1:55 pm Post subject: Re: listening to your own songs

Speaking of the effigies i met the guitar palyer from the effigies at a show his son was playing in my town one time very nice guy.

dwlb · Posted: Mon Apr 05, 2004 12:03 am Post subject: Re: listening to your own songs

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