EH's 12AY7
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EH's 12AY7
So, I was using it as a DI, with my bass plugged through in with a quarter inch to xlr, and a straight xlr on the output to my amp. Of similar tube gear I've used, it makes the most obvious difference in tone that I've heard yet. I'm not sure if that makes it better. Also, it is noisy. So, over all, I'd give it a "meh." I returned it.
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The 1/4" out is an IC buffered TRS output for use with host based recording rigs to get around latency problems. Nothing you want to record should ever go through the 1/4" jack. Unless you are using the XLR's only, you are not hearing this pre. There is NO DI function implied for this pre either. This little thing kicks total ass.
It would be like recording the headphone out of a studer 1/2" machine into protools and saying: "meh, the studer was alright, but kind of lofi and shitty."
Misuse of this pre seems to be running rampant. I told them they were gonna have problems with the 1/4" thingy. It has caused more bad reviews of the pre than anything. EVERY time someone uses it properly they are like, "oh, okay... this thing does kind of rock..."
It would be like recording the headphone out of a studer 1/2" machine into protools and saying: "meh, the studer was alright, but kind of lofi and shitty."
Misuse of this pre seems to be running rampant. I told them they were gonna have problems with the 1/4" thingy. It has caused more bad reviews of the pre than anything. EVERY time someone uses it properly they are like, "oh, okay... this thing does kind of rock..."
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No, I didn't use the quarter inch on the unit. Both input and output were XLR. Wasn't recording with it, playing with it live.joel hamilton wrote:The 1/4" out is an IC buffered TRS output for use with host based recording rigs to get around latency problems. Nothing you want to record should ever go through the 1/4" jack. Unless you are using the XLR's only, you are not hearing this pre. There is NO DI function implied for this pre either. This little thing kicks total ass.
It would be like recording the headphone out of a studer 1/2" machine into protools and saying: "meh, the studer was alright, but kind of lofi and shitty."
Misuse of this pre seems to be running rampant. I told them they were gonna have problems with the 1/4" thingy. It has caused more bad reviews of the pre than anything. EVERY time someone uses it properly they are like, "oh, okay... this thing does kind of rock..."
Yes, but you had a definite impedance mismatch unless you were using a direct box to go into it. a 1/4 to xlr cable isn't enough.Girl Toes wrote:No, I didn't use the quarter inch on the unit. Both input and output were XLR. Wasn't recording with it, playing with it live.
I like mine on most everything I've tried it on, electric guitar cabs, kick & snare (it says it's overdriving, but it still sounds good to me) and vocals.
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the problem is definately not in the produce, it's in completely wrong use of the unit. how is a 1/4" to XLR cable converting your instrument level and impedence to mic level and impedence? this is a MIC PRE AMP. not a Sans Amp bass driver. In order to get an instrument into the 12AY7 pre, you would have to use a DI and use the EH for gain up to line level. If you plugged a mic with an XLR to 1/4" cable into the HI-Z input of an API pre, you probably think it sucked, too. You should try the EH pre as a pre, and then i think your opinion of the unit would change quite a great deal. i've found it to be a pretty amazing preamp for vocals, acoustic guitar, overheads, and room mics. not a fan of tube pres on electric guitar. gets to splatty for me most of the time.
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I have a hard time using it on my TO ribbons. i have the gain cranked and still have to crank the output on the comp to get enough signal to make the needle move much on my tape machine.
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Just a quick question guys....I was thinking of picking up one of these for use with home recording setup, which i use a MOTU 828MKII in order to record to Cubase. I was thinking that I would use a and XLR to 1/4 inch in order to bring the mic in via one of MKII's inputs. Would this cause the same issue as using the 1/4 output, or would the same unwanted result be occuring? Any input/feedback is greatly appreciated.
Yep, that's the way to go, just make sure the cable is balanced XLR to 1/4" trs.sonicanger wrote:Just a quick question guys....I was thinking of picking up one of these for use with home recording setup, which i use a MOTU 828MKII in order to record to Cubase. I was thinking that I would use a and XLR to 1/4 inch in order to bring the mic in via one of MKII's inputs. Would this cause the same issue as using the 1/4 output, or would the same unwanted result be occuring? Any input/feedback is greatly appreciated.
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