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Condensors & Guitar Cabs

Post by UnlikeKurt » Wed Nov 09, 2005 9:10 pm

Hey guys
looking for advice on picking up a couple of condensors to use for guitar cabinets (probably along with 57s), that would also be beneficial in other applications, like room or overheads.

Between $300 used
and something like a used AT4050

thanks folks

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Post by soundguy » Wed Nov 09, 2005 9:16 pm

have you ever used a condenser on a guitar cab?

If you have, cool but if not, Id suggest spending that money on a righteous dynamic mic. I dont get condensers on speakers, but thats me, Im fucked. For $300 you can get an ok condenser that might have a top end that will be the exactly wrong peaky frequency for a guitar cab or you can get like, a totally awesome dynamic mic that will rule on guitar cabs.

just an opinion, dont mean to derail your thread or anything.

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Post by Ryan Silva » Wed Nov 09, 2005 11:11 pm

Yep dynamic all the way

Sennhiser 421 or if you find a deal the 441 is kick ass!
Shure SM7
Ev-20

All perfectly afordable mics that evrey studio needs

Unless...

Unless you are trying to get Country or Jazz tones, or anything else that doesn't make your ears bleed. In that case you just might want to pick up that AT4050.

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Post by heylow » Thu Nov 10, 2005 1:16 am

I used the AT4047 all over my band's new record and liked what it did. A ton of the electric guitar was done with it and, though we typically went with the M160 for overheads, the 4047 does a great job there in my opinion as well.

To me, the trick to using condensers on electric guitar (or at least in the case of my situation and my 4047) is NOT to put it right up on the cab. We often had it out a foot or three, moving it back and forth to find the right speaker/speaker and speaker/room blend.



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Post by bradb » Thu Nov 10, 2005 6:08 am

How about a nice ribbon for that guitar cab?

AEA R92?

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Post by joel hamilton » Thu Nov 10, 2005 6:48 am

Condensers I have loved for guitars and bass:

FET 47, 4033, Lomo 19A19, U87 (for lap steel for some reason on a twin).

I used the 4033 like a zillion times on guitar amps.
Great mic for that.

You can get an amazing amount of detail, if you are willing to tailor the amp's sound to RECORDING rather than just show up with a way too bright, way to cranked amp and expect it to sound good.

You dont NEED a condenser, though.

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Post by mjau » Thu Nov 10, 2005 7:54 am

I've also liked the 4033 on a guitar cab if you do what Joel suggested and tailor the amp to a recorded sound. The Blue Baby Bottle can be cool, also. For really overdriven sounds, dynamics have worked better for me. I've got a Beyer m69 I use a lot on guitar cabs - seems to get condensor-like detail without a lot of harshness. Great mic, IMHO.

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