microtonal rock song

ubertar · Post by **ubertar** » Mon Dec 26, 2005 4:11 pm

This is a solo piece of mine-- I play everything on it, and did the recording. I also built the instruments on it, except for the drums. The tuning is 5 tone equal temperament. The link might not be clickable ( there's a space in it), so just copy and paste into your browser.

http://helstab.com/music/ubertar/tsbts(title track).MP3

It's called "the sun beneath the sea" from my (not yet released) album of the same name.

alissa · Post by **alissa** » Mon Dec 26, 2005 5:07 pm

is that from v3?

i can hear no audio where i am.

ubertar · Post by **ubertar** » Mon Dec 26, 2005 5:36 pm

No, "Blinded (Shining Sun)" was on v.3 (I just checked). I think this one was played on one of the early creot radio shows, but I'm not sure which.

This is what we're talking about, so this doesn't get cryptic or cliquey.

I'm Painting Again · Post by **I'm Painting Again** » Tue Dec 27, 2005 10:54 am

Awesome..

hey thats the same guitar sound and pitch (maybe) on the Bowie cover you did with Daniel Johnston in the Electric Ghosts..

ubertar · Post by **ubertar** » Tue Dec 27, 2005 11:23 am

Really? I think the only thing in common was the amp. I'll have to listen to that again. The Daniel Johnston thing was in a regular minor scale, on a regular (Gibson Melody Maker) guitar. This was on one of my homemade ghetto guitars. Different mics, different preamps... now that I think of it, I used two amps through a splitter on the sun beneath the sea on the lead part-- one was the same as on the DJ thing. The other guitar parts were through a different amp. So there really wasn't much in common in the signal chain (except the player). Weird.

I'm Painting Again · Post by **I'm Painting Again** » Tue Dec 27, 2005 11:30 am

the one guitar chord man..the sound is the same or very close....listen to them back to back..I'm going off memory..I have memory power..but I'm an idiot too..

Ethan Holdtrue · Post by **Ethan Holdtrue** » Tue Dec 27, 2005 12:53 pm

sounds like something that might have been on the movie AKIRA

ubertar · Post by **ubertar** » Wed Dec 28, 2005 8:00 am

beard_of_bees wrote:the one guitar chord man..the sound is the same or very close....listen to them back to back..I'm going off memory..I have memory power..but I'm an idiot too..

I just listened to them back to back-- I don't hear it. I'll post the link to the daniel johnston thing so people can judge for themselves. I'm kind of hesitant to post that here, for two reasons... one, it's supposed to be released in March, and I don't want to get in trouble with the label, and two, the recording is pretty crappy (I can say that because I recorded it). At the time I didn't know what I was doing. Listening to the two of these back to back I think I've come a long way... the DJ stuff was before I discovered TOMB, for one thing.

here's the link:
http://helstab.com/music/ubertar/scary ... cover.MP3

*This has spaces too, so you need to copy and paste into your browser again.

ubertar · Post by **ubertar** » Wed Dec 28, 2005 8:38 am

I listened again... I think I know what you mean now, bees. It's not a chord but bending a note on one string while holding the note it's bent to on the next string. I'm doing that a lot at the end of scary monsters, and throughout the sun... I like that technique a lot; I think adds some nice tension. I like taking blues phrasings and applying them to non-blues scales.

I'm Painting Again · Post by **I'm Painting Again** » Wed Dec 28, 2005 9:33 am

yeah its the slide and the guitar tone..very similar if not super similar..

ubertar · Post by **ubertar** » Wed Dec 28, 2005 9:53 am

That's weird. I hear the guitar tones as very different. tsbts is brighter, for example.

I'm Painting Again · Post by **I'm Painting Again** » Wed Dec 28, 2005 11:10 am

it definitely is similar to me..I'm listening for timbre i guess..

i think the brightness is relative to otherthings in and of the mix..maybe?

ClownMonkey · Post by **ClownMonkey** » Thu Dec 29, 2005 11:48 am

try this link
EDIT
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. Listening now. Wow. Gamelan in a blenderiffic. Makes me wish I'd stuck to some of the wierder non-western sounding music I used to experiment with before being all rock-oriented. Very clever. You built and played those instruments. Man that is where it is AT.

(ok, so I had trouble dancing to it)

LeedyGuy · Post by **LeedyGuy** » Sun Jan 08, 2006 8:52 am

Are you into Harry Partch at all? I'm friends with the guy who is the curator of all of his instruments and my boy Dean even builds his own Partch instruments. That is microtonality at its most insane. theres a group called New Band that plays all the Partch stuff and they are amazing. Partch came up with a 42 tone octave. hot.

http://www.newband.org/

ubertar · Post by **ubertar** » Sun Jan 08, 2006 9:22 am

I like Harry Partch. Delusion of the Fury is my favorite. Interesting guy. I used to know a guy who was one of his original "disciples". Crusty old character. He had some of the instruments and would play shows. One time I was talking with him and he went on a rant about how Mozart and Beethoven were "whores".

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