HOW BIG OR SMALL IS YOUR STUDIO?

supafuzz · Post by **supafuzz** » Fri Mar 10, 2006 11:25 am

Must be control room and separate live room

all in one bedroom studio's don't count

Meeting the real estate guy tomorrow and trying to figure out how much space to ask for

thanks

harley

Mark Alan Miller · Post by **Mark Alan Miller** » Mon Mar 13, 2006 4:48 pm

My new place (not counting a little '2nd floor iso/lounge' space) is about 1200 sq ft. Including C/R, hallway/bathroom area, machine room, main room, drum room and iso booth...

Kinda a 'medium size' place, I'm told.

supafuzz · Post by **supafuzz** » Mon Mar 13, 2006 7:41 pm

thanks can't afford 1200 ft am wondering if I can get away with 500 sq ft or under

mostly live room /with small control room
and I guess small lounge area
bathrooms are common to the building
h

spankenstein · Post by **spankenstein** » Mon Mar 13, 2006 8:47 pm

I have 750 sqft. Some is taken up by the house HVAC and some by the laundry area. It's a funny barely U shape and I have no control room.

supafuzz · Post by **supafuzz** » Mon Mar 13, 2006 8:57 pm

not going to do the one open room thing this time

Mark Alan Miller · Post by **Mark Alan Miller** » Mon Mar 13, 2006 9:21 pm

supafuzz wrote:thanks can't afford 1200 ft am wondering if I can get away with 500 sq ft or under

mostly live room /with small control room
and I guess small lounge area
bathrooms are common to the building
h

I completely understand. I've made an investment on this, for sure. Separate building from the house and all that...

500 sq feet is gonna be tight. Sure, you could do a little control room, but the acoustic issues with small rooms are many. Ugly room modes, bass issues... you'll need to plan your build very carefully, and probably still treat the heck out of the room (count on bass trapping in the structural plans and you'll at least be ahead of the game...) Also, if you can do small square footage, but get the highest ceilings possible, you can make up a little acoustic difference that way...

With only 500 sq feet I'd forego the lounge for better acoustics all around with the gain in square and cubic footage.

Lessee. say 320 sq ft is playing room, 150 is control room. That would give you, for example, a playing room of 16x20, which is pretty good, really, and a control room of 12x15, which, especially if the ceilings are high (10 feet would be good, higher would be better) would be not too bad.
But that doesn't give you a lounge. Take the playing room down to 280 and the control room to 150 and you have 70 left over for a lounge. Then (for example), you're at around 14.5x17 for playing space, 10x15 for control room, and a 7x 10 lounge, which is big enough for a couch, tv, microwave, playstation (GTA San Andreas will keep everyone out of your hair, I promise!), etc.
Don't forget storage, though...

Just some ol' thoughts...

supafuzz · Post by **supafuzz** » Tue Mar 14, 2006 3:55 am

Hey Mark
Just about an hour and change from my mom's house in hillsdale!
hmmmm ny /ct/western mass tape op club?
ever get down to GT barrington

WKZE has been playing tracks from the compilation cd I produced
UPSTATE MANHATTAN!!!!

My tech guy [who's going to help in the design] says that a well treated live room is my most important goal. And that I can live with a properly designed smaller control room. When I see him this week I''ll see if i can get some minimum specifications.
It's going to be like recording on a ship maybe.

it does have 13.5 ceiling heights i'm told.

My meeting with the real estate guy got put off till next week so I have a little more time to figure things out.

Mark Alan Miller · Post by **Mark Alan Miller** » Tue Mar 14, 2006 7:14 am

13.5 foot ceilings? You're in much better shape there!

Yeah, maybe we need a northern CT/VT/NH/western MA/upstate NY TapeOp night somewhere...

I kinda agree that a well -treated live room is important - get it at the source, you know, and all that... but yes, design that control room well or you'll have trouble hearing whether it's sounding good or not in the live room.
I know you know that... just sayin'.

Recording on a ship, you say? Consider 'bulkhead' lights for sconces and you'll really up that vibe! Har-har.

And, airplay? Always a good thing!

I'm Painting Again · Post by **I'm Painting Again** » Tue Mar 14, 2006 10:44 am

many acoustics people say 2500 - 3000 cubic feet is what you need for your live room..control room size might be dictated by your monitors or could be designed around them..and the size might be less important there..

I'm Painting Again · Post by **I'm Painting Again** » Tue Mar 14, 2006 10:48 am

I'd be down for an upstate party..

You buying or renting Harley?

Can't belive there is rockn' going on in Inwood!!

I'm Painting Again · Post by **I'm Painting Again** » Tue Mar 14, 2006 10:52 am

just for the record the maze of acoustics and bass traps and hifi always ends up at a dead end with you looking into a mirror..

supafuzz · Post by **supafuzz** » Tue Mar 14, 2006 11:23 am

beard_of_bees wrote:I'd be down for an upstate party..

You buying or renting Harley?

Can't belive there is rockn' going on in Inwood!!

gonna be renting

I'm spearheading the music scene up here it seems. It was kind of complacent
and jazz/classical snooty but I found lots of talent up here.

And now everyone wants to get on board. It's amazing that when I did something for other people and not just self-promo things started to blow up!

http://cdbaby.com/cd/inwoodac
take a listen here

I'm Painting Again · Post by **I'm Painting Again** » Tue Mar 14, 2006 2:18 pm

you know thats really the best thing..establishing an entity out of love that serves and props up your musical community..its not surprising people see the value in that..

I would have been amazed if you said you were buying a building because the current RE market in this area is out of control..'specially in the city..my friend who runs a business down on Ludlow is paying close to 10 G's a month in rent! Can you believe that?

http://www.jandssupply.com/

this is the local source for 703 insulation for your treatment..just call up and see if they have enough on a certain day and you can just walk in and pick up whats left from the contractors..

you might want to check out a headphone overdub system that uses cat5 cable to distribute..cheaper and easier I think than running audio cable..

its such a big undertaking..I wish you lots of luck..

supafuzz · Post by **supafuzz** » Tue Mar 14, 2006 2:32 pm

the link didn't work for the supply guy.

Yeah I'm trying not to make it too big a deal but it has to be comfortable and
functional.

I have 95% of all the equipment I need for recording including amps and keys and gtrs and drums etc..

Gonna concentrate on doing a great live room..it's been a goal of mine for a while..tired of the restrictions of home studio

Don't want to create a money pit so I'm gonna be kinda conservative..but no so much that I feel i need a bigger space after a short time...

It's going to double as rehearsal for the bands I play in...so that'll help things

H

I'm Painting Again · Post by **I'm Painting Again** » Tue Mar 14, 2006 2:54 pm

the link works here..

53-02 37th Street
Long Island City, NY 11101

Phone 718-786-3044
Fax 718-729-5182

is the contact info

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HOW BIG OR SMALL IS YOUR STUDIO?

HOW BIG OR SMALL IS YOUR STUDIO?

hmm

i need spaces with control and live rooms

Re: hmm

western mass eh?

inwood rocks

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