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inverseroom on a wing and a prayer

Joined: 07 May 2003 Posts: 5022 Location: Ithaca, NY
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Posted: Sun Nov 09, 2003 6:41 pm Post subject: Your favorite drum machine and how you use it. |
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OK--I admit that I'm asking this question so that I can go on eBay and steal your ideas. Seriously--I write and record alone, and all I've ever used are the trusty but dull Zoom $99 jobber, and the Alesis SR-16. I need some new beats and some new ways to make them. What do you use, and how do you use it? _________________ New album out now! clicky |
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Meriphew carpal tunnel

Joined: 11 May 2003 Posts: 1745 Location: Seattle USA
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Posted: Sun Nov 09, 2003 7:02 pm Post subject: Re: Your favorite drum machine and how you use it. |
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I have a small collection of them, but my main go to drum machines are my Elektron Machinedrum, and my Roland R8 mk II. I'll normally get some funky rhythm going on then bring in a real drummer on top of it ala Steve Jansen style. _________________ My iTunes |
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inverseroom on a wing and a prayer

Joined: 07 May 2003 Posts: 5022 Location: Ithaca, NY
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Posted: Sun Nov 09, 2003 7:07 pm Post subject: Re: Your favorite drum machine and how you use it. |
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A quick addendum to this post: I guess I'm interested in your thoughts about two categories of drum machines/modules.
1) Most realistic approximations of acoustic drums and percussion
2) Most interesting sounds, synthesized or otherwise. _________________ New album out now! clicky |
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Meriphew carpal tunnel

Joined: 11 May 2003 Posts: 1745 Location: Seattle USA
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Posted: Sun Nov 09, 2003 7:12 pm Post subject: Re: Your favorite drum machine and how you use it. |
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Most realistic: Roland R8 (R8 mkII is better beacause it has a lot more sounds).
Best synthesized: Elektron Machinedrum. Nothing else is even close. _________________ My iTunes |
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JohnDavisNYC ghost haunting audio students

Joined: 03 Oct 2003 Posts: 3019 Location: crooklyn, ny
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Posted: Sun Nov 09, 2003 7:17 pm Post subject: Re: Your favorite drum machine and how you use it. |
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my favorite drum machine ever is the Roland TR606... the 808 being a close second. right now, my favorite 'drum machine' is my Octave Cat analog synth being played over midi>CV. just one sound at a time, and it usually turns out great. it's like some Jonny Greenwood shit ala Idioteque if you can't afford an Analog Systems modular.... just gotta be deliberate about it and think about how the sounds'll mix together.
the R8 is cool, too. don't really use it much, though.... was sitting under my bed for along time. basically, i'm a modular guy for drum sounds.
one great feature i discovered recently, though... is in reason's redrum module, if you click on the drum machine, command-r randomizes the pattern in real time... it's great to just load up one of these with a few hihats or something, along side a more basic loop, and then just keep hitting command-r and record the results... instant never repeating electro-hats.
yeah...
john |
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Meriphew carpal tunnel

Joined: 11 May 2003 Posts: 1745 Location: Seattle USA
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Posted: Sun Nov 09, 2003 7:24 pm Post subject: Re: Your favorite drum machine and how you use it. |
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| toaster wrote: |
one great feature i discovered recently, though... is in reason's redrum module, if you click on the drum machine, command-r randomizes the pattern in real time... it's great to just load up one of these with a few hihats or something, along side a more basic loop, and then just keep hitting command-r and record the results... instant never repeating electro-hats. |
I've always wondered why a hardware drum machine manufacturer (Roland/Yammie/Korg) never put that into one of their boxes. _________________ My iTunes |
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JohnDavisNYC ghost haunting audio students

Joined: 03 Oct 2003 Posts: 3019 Location: crooklyn, ny
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Posted: Sun Nov 09, 2003 7:53 pm Post subject: Re: Your favorite drum machine and how you use it. |
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well, with the 303, you could scramble the memory by switching it on and off.. resulting in some wierd basslines... but i don't know if anything similar happens with the drum machines... will have to investigate....
it would be a great feature in a modern machine, although, gven that most modern drum machines are totaly shite. (elektron machine drum excluded) it wouldn't matter, cuz i don't really want crummy PCM drum sounds...
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doctor phd audio school graduate

Joined: 14 Oct 2003 Posts: 16 Location: minneapolis
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Posted: Sun Nov 09, 2003 9:35 pm Post subject: Re: Your favorite drum machine and how you use it. |
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I will never need another drum machine since I got an mpc 2000xl. As far as sounds go its all up to you. which is what I love about it. The pads on this thing rule with velocity and aftertouch. The filters are ok but you can manipulate tons of paramaters. And syncing this thing is no problem it even generates and recieves smpte.
might not be what youre after but if you want sampled drums any mpc will do the trick.
I also have a sequencial circuits drumtraks that has 8-bit samples. This thing sounds rad and the midi implementation is pretty good. the toms are straight off a prince album. |
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Meriphew carpal tunnel

Joined: 11 May 2003 Posts: 1745 Location: Seattle USA
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Posted: Sun Nov 09, 2003 10:42 pm Post subject: Re: Your favorite drum machine and how you use it. |
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| doctor phd wrote: |
I also have a sequencial circuits drumtraks that has 8-bit samples. This thing sounds rad and the midi implementation is pretty good. the toms are straight off a prince album. |
Didn't Prince use a Linn Drum? I had heard he had the first one ever made. _________________ My iTunes |
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doctor phd audio school graduate

Joined: 14 Oct 2003 Posts: 16 Location: minneapolis
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Posted: Sun Nov 09, 2003 10:56 pm Post subject: Re: Your favorite drum machine and how you use it. |
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| although prince did have the first linn drum. He also used the drumtraks on early stuff and the later sequencial circuits tom on when doves cry. |
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justinf re-cappin' neve

Joined: 07 May 2003 Posts: 783 Location: charlotte
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Posted: Sun Nov 09, 2003 10:59 pm Post subject: Re: Your favorite drum machine and how you use it. |
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I'm right with Toaster on this one. . well, more or less:
Roland TR606 and TR707, great across the board--I love the interface, always have.
Reason, see above, also very flexible. I export drum wavs to Logic/etc, no Rewire thanks.
Alesis SR16 for generic drum machine sounds destined to be fucked up by some device.
my favorite though, Ensoniq ASR-X Pro. Bad ass resampling and MPC-style pads = nice beats. Check it out; I had 2 but gave one to a good buddy. |
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analogcabin buyin' gear

Joined: 08 May 2003 Posts: 579 Location: Afton, Virginia
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Posted: Sun Nov 09, 2003 11:30 pm Post subject: Re: Your favorite drum machine and how you use it. |
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On the Econo end.........the Alesis HR-16 is no slouch. And easy as can be to use. Almost free on eBay.
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inverseroom on a wing and a prayer

Joined: 07 May 2003 Posts: 5022 Location: Ithaca, NY
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Posted: Sun Nov 09, 2003 11:38 pm Post subject: Re: Your favorite drum machine and how you use it. |
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Opinions:
Yamaha RX5?
Yamaha RY30?
Yamaha QY70 (mostly for drums, bass, and monosynth)?
Boss DR-770? (newfangled)
Boss DR-110? (oldschoolwise)
Electribe ER-1?
This is good, keep it comin'--I started (musical) life with a Six-Trak and know a Drumtraks is somewhere in my future... _________________ New album out now! clicky |
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doctor phd audio school graduate

Joined: 14 Oct 2003 Posts: 16 Location: minneapolis
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Randall pushin' record
Joined: 24 Jun 2003 Posts: 291 Location: Music City USA
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Posted: Mon Nov 10, 2003 1:12 am Post subject: Re: Your favorite drum machine and how you use it. |
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I got an SR 16 midi'd up to a D5 it aaaannnhhh, so so, but it sucks, got triggers on my drums, but they are just frustrating to try and work with, nothing sounds like a real kit _________________ "tune that thing son" |
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