senneheiers e609 mic - i cant find a thing i like it for....

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Post by Artifex » Sat Aug 16, 2008 9:55 am

Ever try to sing through one? Not good.
Funny, thats exactly what I just did on a session. That was the Silver, though. Maybe there's a difference.

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Post by b3groover » Sat Aug 16, 2008 10:33 am

On a recording, it might be a cool effect for a particular vibe. For a live show, however... not good. :)
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Post by DrummerMan » Sat Aug 16, 2008 10:51 am

kayagum wrote:The PR40 is NOT a side address mic- it's an end address mic. When you buy one new, it's pretty hilarious how many stickers the company puts on the mic to warn new owners of that. I'm sure their tech support people are pretty sick of the question.

The MD421 is an end address mic too.
It's funny. I was at a concert last night and watched, once again, an older very well known saxophonist get on stage, go up the 421 that was waiting for him, and proceed to flip it up like it was a u87 or something.

His resulting sound was a very thin representation of his upper register.

For some reason, with all the tech people running around, checking cables and fixing violin DI's and such, nobody decided to fix this issue, which I found strange considering that the shitty-ness of his sound seemed blaringly obvious (at least to me) AND he was the main star of the show. :roll:
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Post by xx3479327 » Sat Aug 16, 2008 11:55 am

I've had a bit of experience with the e609 silver in the past and found it really nice on accordion, actually.. picks up just enough of the breath/tone of the instrument without being overly noisy. I've also tried it on guitar amps and snare with somewhat-acceptable results but I've had much better luck with various other dynamics/condensors in both those applications. Great mic to just hang in front of an amp in a live setting though, as stated earlier in the thread.

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Post by forgotteng » Sun Aug 17, 2008 5:32 pm

I thought I recall seeing Gilmore sing through a 409 on one of those old Floyd videos. Was that a dummy mic?

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Post by cgarges » Sun Aug 17, 2008 7:59 pm

The 409 is a different animal than the 609. Floyd did indeed carry "Echolette"-branded 409s with their live PA in the early seventies.

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Post by getreel » Tue Aug 19, 2008 7:00 pm

I love the 409. Been wanting one forever but the prices go up and up on those things. The 609 is not acceptable to my ears as a substitute. I'd like to try the 906 if it's closer though. I used to mic Marshalls with 409s in the early 90s for some great grunge tones :)

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Post by iC » Tue Aug 19, 2008 7:50 pm

609 functions for guitar amp reinforcement in small room Mackie PA situations. A hair of bite and nothing else much to get in the way of the vocal....
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Post by cgarges » Wed Aug 20, 2008 11:04 am

getreel wrote:I love the 409. Been wanting one forever but the prices go up and up on those things. The 609 is not acceptable to my ears as a substitute. I'd like to try the 906 if it's closer though. I used to mic Marshalls with 409s in the early 90s for some great grunge tones :)
the 409 is a great mic! You should at least look into the 906. Definitely the closest thing I've heard and it doesn't cost the absurd amount of money that 409s have been getting in the last few years.

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Post by lefuquaire » Wed Aug 20, 2008 11:52 am

i like the 609 for guitar, live. draping it means one less mic stand to carry around. tried it once on alto sax. no good. i doubt i'd use it for recording, but i have many options. (md 421, md441, sm7, re20, lots of condensers)
i really want a 409.

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Post by Fakiekid » Thu Aug 21, 2008 5:57 am

after reading this thread i hadn't realised that I totally agree! I have a 609 silver and i never use it on anything. Did a rack tom once with poor results. Sn bottom is about the best place for it.

Anyone wanna buy one? haha

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Post by Jeff White » Thu Aug 21, 2008 11:50 am

Fakiekid wrote:after reading this thread i hadn't realised that I totally agree! I have a 609 silver and i never use it on anything. Did a rack tom once with poor results. Sn bottom is about the best place for it.

Anyone wanna buy one? haha
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I own one. It was free. So I will keep it around as a paper weight until I find a use for it.

I've used it for Toms back in 2005 (borrowed another one... yuck). Didn't like it. Used it again for rack tom. Again, didn't like it.

I've double mic'd a 1970s Marshall, a 1970s Twin, and my 1990s Mesa with both a 57 and the 609 silver and the 57 always wins. The 609 sounds harsh to me and the 57 natural.

Not sure what I'll use it for, but something will come up. Aside from accordion, any suggestions?

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Post by christiannokes » Thu Aug 21, 2008 12:00 pm

I just used the e609 with an sm58 as a stereo pair for a rock out chant that i recorded. I put them in a somewhat ortf position. sounded really great.

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Post by Jeff White » Thu Aug 21, 2008 2:21 pm

Are the e609 and e609 Silver the same mic?
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Post by Fakiekid » Fri Aug 22, 2008 10:17 am

i dunno but i've since sold mine. 40 quid better spent on going out or putting towards a r121 my end!

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