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gustavobill
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 24, 2010 12:39 pm    Post subject: Tame Impala's gritty guitar sound Reply with quote

Latelly I've been listening to this Australian new band and their record has a very characteristic gritty guitar sound that appears to be breaking apart. Some Fu Manchu's song also have that same gritty mid-lows (?).

What causes that kinda sound? Tape saturation? the mic screaming in pure agony? Just a fuzz pedal through a fat amp (and I'm an idiot because even a monkey can get that sound)?

Tame Impala Song - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EWgz_drnAN0&feature=PlayList&p=E4871FC1C4C1691A&playnext=1&index=38

Fu Manchu Song - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K-rn7i75vhU&feature=related

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 24, 2010 8:04 pm    Post subject: Re: Tame Impala's gritty guitar sound Reply with quote

I'm pretty sure the album was recorded on a zoom or boss multitrack so I'd forget about tape saturation. I think Kev used his strat on the album too.

I could ask him in person but every time I see him I'm usually too drunk/high to discuss gear.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 24, 2010 9:35 pm    Post subject: Re: Tame Impala's gritty guitar sound Reply with quote

there's definettly some strat there. Or a Les Paul with a really heavy eq. I'm guessing some fuzz, but doesn't seen like it the main distortion.

I sended you a private message, if you could reply it would be great.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 24, 2010 9:44 pm    Post subject: Re: Tame Impala's gritty guitar sound Reply with quote

WHooper wrote:
I'm pretty sure the album was recorded on a zoom or boss multitrack so I'd forget about tape saturation. I think Kev used his strat on the album too.

I could ask him in person but every time I see him I'm usually too drunk/high to discuss gear.


Excuse me sir, is this name yours? I think you just dropped it
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 24, 2010 10:05 pm    Post subject: Re: Tame Impala's gritty guitar sound Reply with quote

heheheheh
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 24, 2010 10:06 pm    Post subject: Re: Tame Impala's gritty guitar sound Reply with quote

You'd do it too if you lived in Perth.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 25, 2010 8:14 am    Post subject: Re: Tame Impala's gritty guitar sound Reply with quote

Nobody else has a opinion/suggestion?
still trying to figure it out
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 25, 2010 2:29 pm    Post subject: Re: Tame Impala's gritty guitar sound Reply with quote

You could try a Big Muff or some other fuzz-tone cheese boxes n-line with a cheap eq pedal, or maybe a cry-baby wah (use an an eq, not a wah; you know, leave it half-open, or experiment with footboard positions until you get the sound you're looking for).

Try solid state vs. tube amps, if you have the options (or your prefered amp simulator plug-in).

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 26, 2010 12:31 pm    Post subject: Re: Tame Impala's gritty guitar sound Reply with quote

might be the smallish speaker trick where you reamp to an amplifier pushing a 4-6 inch raw frame speaker where it's breaking up...then you mic it with 2 microphones. one in the front, and one in the back of it...exact distances. don't correct the phase...let them be 180 degrees out of phase. what you have left is just this nutso grit that is really hard to achieve any other way.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 26, 2010 12:48 pm    Post subject: Re: Tame Impala's gritty guitar sound Reply with quote

Sounds like it was distorted either at the mic preamp, or in the mix with some kind of excessive gain. You can get the same sound overdriving a mic preamp or overdriving another of your gain stages at mix time. I've done it with line input gain on the board, compressor's makeup gain on an insert, agressive additive EQ, Massey's TapeHead plug, UA 1176LN plug, CamelCrusher plug, etc.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 26, 2010 1:46 pm    Post subject: Re: Tame Impala's gritty guitar sound Reply with quote

these last two^
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 26, 2010 8:20 pm    Post subject: Re: Tame Impala's gritty guitar sound Reply with quote

casey campbell wrote:
might be the smallish speaker trick where you reamp to an amplifier pushing a 4-6 inch raw frame speaker where it's breaking up...then you mic it with 2 microphones. one in the front, and one in the back of it...exact distances. don't correct the phase...let them be 180 degrees out of phase. what you have left is just this nutso grit that is really hard to achieve any other way.


I think i still have a little 8 inch fender (too big?), but it's closed back. Not sure if its gonna work all that well. Will try it, anyway
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 26, 2010 8:35 pm    Post subject: Re: Tame Impala's gritty guitar sound Reply with quote

subatomic pieces wrote:
Sounds like it was distorted either at the mic preamp, or in the mix with some kind of excessive gain. You can get the same sound overdriving a mic preamp or overdriving another of your gain stages at mix time. I've done it with line input gain on the board, compressor's makeup gain on an insert, agressive additive EQ, Massey's TapeHead plug, UA 1176LN plug, CamelCrusher plug, etc.


My preamps sound horrible when overdriven (an ART MP and a Presonus Blue Tube). I usually use agressive additive EQ, but i can only get some grit on the upper mids (low mids sound too muddy). gonna try adding gain in diferent stages to see if i come closer.

Thanks for the help!
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 26, 2010 10:15 pm    Post subject: Re: Tame Impala's gritty guitar sound Reply with quote

casey campbell wrote:
might be the smallish speaker trick where you reamp to an amplifier pushing a 4-6 inch raw frame speaker where it's breaking up...then you mic it with 2 microphones. one in the front, and one in the back of it...exact distances. don't correct the phase...let them be 180 degrees out of phase. what you have left is just this nutso grit that is really hard to achieve any other way.


Now there's a cool idea. Cool Cool Cool
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 27, 2010 11:54 pm    Post subject: Re: Tame Impala's gritty guitar sound Reply with quote

The sound I'm hearing on the Tame Impala is definitely a fuzz box. It's splatty like a superfuzz, you can even here slight octave overtones. Sounds like a neck pickup on a strat too, because if you listen on decent speakers, you can still hear some spanky top. +1 on small speaker... Champ on 10. Either way, very cool sounding recording. Thanks for sharing.

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