Does anyone still mix / master without viewing WAVs ??

[cjogo]

Any reason that a PCI version is better than a straight Firewire :: on the RME ?? Latency problems plague one more readily -- smoother interfacing with the software intended ?

[Gentleman Jim]

Any reason that a PCI version is better than a straight Firewire :: on the RME ?? Latency problems plague one more readily -- smoother interfacing with the software intended ?

The PCI card would mean fewer physical connections in the rig, which I always consider to be preferable.

Also, someone please correct me if I'm wrong, but I've always been under the impression that as far as latency goes, it's:

USB>Firewire 400>Firewire 800>PCI.

Meaning that USB has the highest latency, while PCI has the lowest. (Yeah, I left out MADI, eSATA, mLAN, blah blah blah.)

None of this is to say that great work can't be done on equipment that uses Firewire. But you're at a recording technology crossroads, and with the caliber of musicians you apparently work with it seems ridiculous to continue with a Band Aid mentality.

Best of luck.

[cjogo]

Did not start behind a desk until the 70's ...followed the technology up till > everything started to cross over to the PC/MAC.

I use to visit the AES show for years but, walking the floor and trying to relate to the gear at the booths :: I realized it was becoming far from my recording world.

a recording technology crossroads

So, a little grasping at this stage.........moving from knobs and sliders > to a mouse & screen > requires some large BandAids .

We have had a few more lessons in Wav editing > now trying to connect our analog world to the PC & Reaper --- The RME multiface units look to be the start.


thanks for the help ....

[JGriffin]

Also, someone please correct me if I'm wrong, but I've always been under the impression that as far as latency goes, it's:

USB>Firewire 400>Firewire 800>PCI.

Meaning that USB has the highest latency, while PCI has the lowest. (Yeah, I left out MADI, eSATA, mLAN, blah blah blah.)

I'd imagine you're right if you're talking about USB 1. Not sure how USB 2 compares, and I've heard USB 3 is supposed to be faster than Firewire 800.

[cjogo]

Also, someone please correct me if I'm wrong, but I've always been under the impression that as far as latency goes, it's:

USB>Firewire 400>Firewire 800>PCI.

Meaning that USB has the highest latency, while PCI has the lowest. (Yeah, I left out MADI, eSATA, mLAN, blah blah blah.)

I'd imagine you're right if you're talking about USB 1. Not sure how USB 2 compares, and I've heard USB 3 is supposed to be faster than Firewire 800.

they have to be lighting speed past the SCSI we are using -- although the Roland RBUS seems to be on par with USB 1.0 speed

[Snarl 12/8]

SCSI can be wicked fast. And supports true asynchronous I/O, which a lot of the other stuff just emulates with buffers and whatnot. I haven't read all 20zillion pages of this crap, so I have no clue which generation of SCSI you're talking about. I wish I could afford to have SCSI RAID on all my computers though.

[cjogo]

CARL ;;; the ROLAND is SCSI II, as well as, the external rack HD system {{ writes fairly fast ... the most difficulty is the partitions -- the ROland can not read past 11 gb

The dual 16 channel RBUS looks very similar to the SCSI cable :: just a totally reversed wiring setup ( to keep proprietary )








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[cjogo]

We ended up baking 10in reels of tape all day ...something not many of the digital folks do these days 140* for 4 hours Ampex 456 >> songs from '86.....transferring to the ROland. Maybe glance at PT & Wavs > later tonight.

[chris harris]

We ended up baking 10in reels of tape all day ...something not many of the digital folks do these days

You've earned 11 "old school" points.

140* for 4 hours Ampex 456 >> songs from '86.....transferring to the ROland.

Something not many of the analog folks do, uh.. ever. Lose 20 points!

[cjogo]

Not sure how many analog engineers can get by without baking tapes ?? Would never take the chance of damaging a clients tape --- baking is just a standard practice. May be losing points in some measure but , scoring in the right direction with the clients precious archives. Cassettes work fine at a prescribed temp, also.

[chris harris]

It's the transfer to the Roland that is something that not many analog folks do.

[cjogo]

http://cgi.ebay.com/Nuendo-Audiolink-96 ... 5640a29558

Just missed a great interface ---- maybe could have transferred direct to Reaper

[cjogo]

It's the transfer to the Roland that is something that not many analog folks do.

I do thank you for the 11 "old school" points --- will mount them on the studio walls --cover over the gold records

[cjogo]

Getting closer to the PC move --searching for the correct scsi pci card, now ..... need to transfer songs from our 4 external HD's ( of ROLAND wav/data )

[cjogo]

http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/beathoh

Newest release for a client .........


.WARNING ''' none of the above songs were subject to any Wave editing... viewing ~~~ post or pre. :=}