Few female recording engineers

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Is this why?

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/heidi-gra ... 28418.html

[Gregg Juke]

Interesting concept, but subject to the same unacknowledged greys that a lot of gender-politik stuff does...

The tongue-in-cheek response: "Bright Girls are smart enough to stay 10,000 miles away from th music/audio business"

Semi-tongue-in-cheek response number two-- that would be a great name for a band. (Maybe-- "Brite Grrrrls R Smart")

GJ

[iqi616]

That might be one factor certainly.

Over the years, I've come to think it's simply because most women don't want to be musicians, recording engineers, or whatever. I've known several women who said they wanted to be in a band but yet wouldn't go and spend the money to buy the gear they needed even though they had plenty of money for clothes and cosmetics. It's harsh but I think if they really wanted to do it, they'd have found the money.

Beyond that it's a numbers game. Say 1% of people make it to the top of the pile, that makes 99% who don't. If 5% of the people are women, the odds are pretty low that one of those women would reach the top - after all at least 94% of the men will fail.

[lyman]

wasn't there a female recipient of the oscar for best sound mixing or something the other night?

[CurtZHP]

I've noticed the same thing in the broadcast engineering field. Hardly any women, and the few there are usually work in a support role (i.e. answering the phone at the transmitter factory). It's not as if it's some "boys club." But the hours are insane, the work is sometimes dirty, and high heels are a no-no (tongue firmly in cheek). Add to that the fact that many transmitter sites have no restroom facilities, and I guess I can see why.

Still, occasionally I get a chance to talk to students about career oriented stuff, and I never hesitate to encourage the girls to consider the technical side of broadcasting.

[wayne kerr]

Or maybe it's because the studio industry is a boys club and women are routinely degraded until they quit. Sure, you've got your Leslie Ann Joneses, Sylvia Masseys, and Trina Shoemakers, but they are the exception, not the rule. Women in our industry are just not made to feel welcome, at least not sitting in front of the desk. I remember a visit to a famous LA studio, and the studio manager asks me if I want some coffee or anything to drink. Sure I'd love some coffee. "Krista, get in here!" he bellows. A young woman, fairly well-endowed alternakid sheepishly emerges from the back. "Wayne would like some coffee."

"Black, please."

Then he shouts at her "run... you're a runner!"

She takes off in a trot.

He turns to me sneering, "god I love to watch her run." He holds his hands out in front of himself at chest level to make a jiggling motion.

Rinse. Repeat.

Women in our industry constantly subject to all manner of indignities--from casual innuendos to sexually-charged dialog to massive amounts of porn and everything in between.

We dudes think about sex about every 4 seconds. Maybe that's just nature at work--propogation of the species and what not, but I'd like to suggest there is a time and a place.

[JGriffin]

Women in our industry constantly subject to all manner of indignities--from casual innuendos to sexually-charged dialog to massive amounts of porn and everything in between.

Hell, there are at least 5 gender-biased comments on this thread already!

[wayne kerr]

Oh, and how could I forget: "your Hillary Johnsons!"

[JGriffin]

* Had no idea Lesley Ann Warren was an engineer *

[Scodiddly]

In the live world you tend to find women more often in lighting than sound. For whatever that's worth... it's not like lighting people have less gear to haul around or anything. Usually it's more and heavier cables.

[wayne kerr]

* Had no idea Lesley Ann Warren was an engineer *

Oh snap! I meant Leslie Ann Jones! Heh.

[Snarl 12/8]

Is this why?

http://messageboard.tapeop.com/viewtopic.php?t=75086

[JGriffin]

In the live world you tend to find women more often in lighting than sound. For whatever that's worth... it's not like lighting people have less gear to haul around or anything. Usually it's more and heavier cables.

Oddly, I just worked with a female lighting designer, and I think that was the first time in over three dozen shows.

[wren]

In the live world you tend to find women more often in lighting than sound. For whatever that's worth... it's not like lighting people have less gear to haul around or anything. Usually it's more and heavier cables.

Oddly, I just worked with a female lighting designer, and I think that was the first time in over three dozen shows.

I'd say about 1/3 of the lighting techs I've worked with have been female, and exactly 0% of the audio techs I've worked with (in theatre and in music) have been female.

[JGriffin]

In the live world you tend to find women more often in lighting than sound. For whatever that's worth... it's not like lighting people have less gear to haul around or anything. Usually it's more and heavier cables.

Oddly, I just worked with a female lighting designer, and I think that was the first time in over three dozen shows.

I'd say about 1/3 of the lighting techs I've worked with have been female, and exactly 0% of the audio techs I've worked with (in theatre and in music) have been female.

I hope the implication came across that I considered my personal experience an anomaly. In theatre I've run across about two designers and about ten techs who were women.