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PostPosted: Tue Aug 02, 2011 3:43 am    Post subject: Oktava MK-319 hum Reply with quote

I have two Oktava MK-319's that I have modified. I took the metal grill out the head basket, added a nylon mesh in it's place and felt strips down the inside left and right sides of the head basket. I also disconnected the HP filter/-10db switch, added some caulking to the body, and took the black baffle off the capsule. I put it all back together and now there is a 50 hz hum on both mics thats almost as loud as talking into it. When I take the head basket off the hum is even louder!

I soldered the capsule center conductor to ground and the capsule signal wire to the input coupling cap. As a test on one of the mics I reversed it where the capsule center conductor went to the input coupling cap and the capsule signal wire went to the ground but it didn't make a difference. Still picked up sound but the 50 hz hum is there.

I'm stumped, any help would be much appreciated, I wanna get these babies up and going again!
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 02, 2011 1:56 pm    Post subject: Re: Oktava MK-319 hum Reply with quote

You need the metal grille. It's metal for a reason: shielding. It also needs to be securely (and conductively) connected to the body, usually through soldering.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 02, 2011 5:52 pm    Post subject: Re: Oktava MK-319 hum Reply with quote

Dang, I threw that stuff away! Do you think I could use some metal mesh stuff that people use for a drain stopper/strainer? Like this?



If not I wonder if I should just get a new head basket, and where I would even find that....
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 02, 2011 7:42 pm    Post subject: Re: Oktava MK-319 hum Reply with quote

im sure michael joly at http://oktavamod.com/ would remesh those head baskets.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 02, 2011 8:07 pm    Post subject: Re: Oktava MK-319 hum Reply with quote

He won't work on mics that have been modded by the owner (or anyone other than him).
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 02, 2011 8:36 pm    Post subject: Re: Oktava MK-319 hum Reply with quote

That's fine, I'd really like to finish this myself and hopefully use it by the weekend. An word on the mesh strainer material?
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 02, 2011 9:18 pm    Post subject: Re: Oktava MK-319 hum Reply with quote

If you're not going to get the official replacement part you're just going to have to try stuff and see. You're trying to create a little Faraday Cage around the capsule. The size of the holes determines what frequencies it will block. 50Hz waves are pretty big, so I think anything meshy and conductive would work. Make sure you ground the fuck out of it. Google Faraday Cage to get specifics. The bigger the holes the more sound you'll let through and the less internal reflections you'll have too. The whole purpose of doing the mod.

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 02, 2011 9:39 pm    Post subject: Re: Oktava MK-319 hum Reply with quote

I'm not opposed to getting the official parts at all. I've been googling MK-319 head basket or MK-319 replacement mesh etc.. but coming up short. I think I'll experiment tonight with some metal mesh. I'll take a little internal reflections over a 50hz hum any day.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 02, 2011 11:10 pm    Post subject: Re: Oktava MK-319 hum Reply with quote

Just hit the hardware store for some kind of mesh. I'm not sure the heavy grounding is all that necessary, as long as the mesh forms a basket shape around the capsule. My mics mostly just have the mesh touching the insides of the headbasket and there's no hum issues.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 03, 2011 1:14 am    Post subject: Re: Oktava MK-319 hum Reply with quote

Thanks that's reassuring. Any particular brand/kind you like or would recommend?



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 03, 2011 8:06 am    Post subject: Re: Oktava MK-319 hum Reply with quote

A bunch of wire mesh here: http://www.mcmaster.com/#wire-mesh/=dgh33n
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 05, 2011 7:17 pm    Post subject: Re: Oktava MK-319 hum Reply with quote

Ok I got some mesh and my attempt to solder it on to the head basket ended in failure and frustration. I could not get the solder to stick! I might order this stuff called Wire Glue, which is some electrically conductive glue and give it one more shot.

If worse comes to worse I did contact an Oktava distrobuter and could order new headbaskets for $50 a pop. A little more than I wanna spend but thats the risk you take with this sort of stuff I suppose...

Also Mr. Joly said he could sell me some Floating Dome headbaskets for $75 each which is another thing to consider....
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 05, 2011 7:20 pm    Post subject: Re: Oktava MK-319 hum Reply with quote

Try scuffing up the area with sandpaper, coating with a liberal amount of flux and using a very hot iron. A 30-50 watt might do the job.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 05, 2011 7:28 pm    Post subject: Re: Oktava MK-319 hum Reply with quote

Well I soaked the head baskets in Acetone for two days and scrubbed them with a steel wire brush. I did get the top of the headbasket to stick a little but couldn't with the insides. I might try again tonight. I believe my iron is 35 watts.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 13, 2011 8:01 am    Post subject: Re: Oktava MK-319 hum Reply with quote

Nate Dort wrote:
You need the metal grille. It's metal for a reason: shielding. It also needs to be securely (and conductively) connected to the body, usually through soldering.

Makes sense. I've been reading all I can about modifications common to this mic including removal of that inner mesh and either damping or replacement of the head basket. How do the pro mod guys who remove the inner mesh deal with this issue?
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