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TapeOpLarry TapeOp Admin

Joined: 01 May 2003 Posts: 1492 Location: Portland, OR
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Posted: Sun Jan 08, 2012 2:02 pm Post subject: That "Oh Shit" Feeling |
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You know this feeling. You got to the studio early. Cleaned the place up, set up a few pieces of gear, cleaned the heads, powered everything up and all looks fine. The client shows up, you start to work and suddenly the computer crashes, the tape won't play or a seemingly simple signal path won't work.
When we're less experienced we lash out, blame someone else, panic, or just become a jerk. When we're "seasoned" we can hide this problem from the artist and know an instant workaround.
Stories about both situations? Young and stupid VS. older and wiser? Specific techniques to keep people from panicking and snazzy workarounds? _________________ Larry Crane, Editor/Founder Tape Op Magazine
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RodC dead but not forgotten

Joined: 31 Dec 2004 Posts: 2036 Location: Right outside the door
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Posted: Sun Jan 08, 2012 2:42 pm Post subject: Re: That "Oh Shit" Feeling |
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I learned somewhere around '88 the "oh shit" will just make things worse. Calmer heads will prevail.
I used to be on call for a large Ref-Lab and 18 stat lab locations. Nothing like getting called in at 3am with an instrument down that is holding up 50+ employees trying to get results out for 12K + patients.
You also don't convey much confidence to the others around you if you cant keep your cool. _________________ 'Well, I've been to one world fair, a picnic, and a rodeo, and that's the stupidest thing I ever heard come over a set of earphones'
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MoreSpaceEcho on a wing and a prayer
Joined: 07 May 2003 Posts: 5780
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Posted: Mon Jan 09, 2012 2:36 pm Post subject: Re: That "Oh Shit" Feeling |
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i've been pretty lucky. *knocks wood* only had a few non-fatal computer crashes and the occasional monitoring snafu, nothing to get worked up about. i remained calm and sorted it out. comped a bit of time for the clients.
i thought the "oh shit" feeling was gonna be about getting robbed. i remember walking into the basement studio at my old place and seeing the back door wide open. that was an oh shit moment for sure. _________________ www.oldcolonymastering.com |
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Nick Sevilla cryogenically thawing

Joined: 03 Mar 2008 Posts: 3653 Location: Los Angeles California USA
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Posted: Mon Jan 09, 2012 2:46 pm Post subject: Re: That "Oh Shit" Feeling |
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I just laugh it off, re boot and start over.
Usually the artist gets a better take because of these rare snafus. It makes them focus on getting ONE good take, God forbid it crashes again.
Cheers _________________ The Song. Nothing else really matters. |
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dwlb zen recordist

Joined: 31 Jul 2003 Posts: 6609 Location: criticizing globally, offending locally
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Posted: Mon Jan 09, 2012 4:08 pm Post subject: Re: That "Oh Shit" Feeling |
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I'm lucky I guess. Most of my "oh shit" moments happen when there's no client around, so I have a few minutes to get my stuff together before talking to them. _________________ "Jeweller, you've failed. Jeweller."
"Lots of people are nostalgic for analog. I suspect they're people who never had to work with it." – Brian Eno
All the DWLB music is at http://dwlb.bandcamp.com/ |
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joelpatterson carpal tunnel

Joined: 10 Jun 2003 Posts: 1723 Location: Albany, New York
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Posted: Mon Jan 09, 2012 4:54 pm Post subject: Re: That "Oh Shit" Feeling |
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It seems like it's in the nature of these momentary lapses that the talent has no idea anything is amiss, but you yourself are freaking out inside when you see the dial saying the wrong thing, or nothing, something unexpected anyway and devastating.
I guess I make an instantaneous calculation-- is this bluffable? "You know, that was great, how about we try it just once more, right now, and REALLY hit the chorus? That would be, like, the crowning glory-style thing." Vital to sound casual and sincere.
Or else, confess. To the music director: "You know, I somehow managed to miss the first four notes of the introduction when you did the Stephen Foster song. Any way you could get the piano player to hit just those four notes when we start up after the intermission?" And then the occasion of that happening is a strange and wondrous little moment all its own... _________________ Mountaintop Studios
~The Peak of Perfection~
Petersburgh NY 12138
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keplar audio school graduate
Joined: 03 Oct 2010 Posts: 11 Location: Kannapolis, NC
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Posted: Mon Jan 09, 2012 5:25 pm Post subject: Re: That "Oh Shit" Feeling |
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I think "oh shit" moments are essential to growing as a professional. That said, it also helps being under the wing of a more seasoned pro to see how they handle those moments. Personally, I try to handle those moments in the same manner the "old guard" did when I worked in manufacturing - calm and methodical. I learned that if you let your emotions get out of control, chances are, you could change what may have been a simple fix into a catastrophic failure. _________________ Keplar
Recording Artist, Techie, and DIY addict
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cgarges TOMB Moderator

Joined: 16 Jun 2003 Posts: 10623 Location: Charlotte, NC
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Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2012 1:15 am Post subject: Re: That "Oh Shit" Feeling |
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I read this TERRIFIC article by Phil Ramone years ago about how to be a good assistant engineer. He made a point of saying that the assistant should never badmouth the studio and I think that that same thing should kind of go for anybody working at a particular place. I know a couple of guys who will point out everything they don't like about a particular place right in front of the client. From the client's perspective, it's like, "Well, why did you suggest that we work in this place if it's so uncomfortable for you?" and from the host studio's perspective, it's like, "Oh, do you want me to point out what's fucked-up and time-consuming about your work flow to the clients, too?"
I have WAY more respect for someone who can work around a particular situation without drawing attention to it and then decide later whether or not it's worth mentioning to anyone.
I had a real weird experience at a studio many years ago and I never really talked about it until A LONG TIME after it happened. I posted about it on here, but I left the names out of it. In fact, I got several emails about it and when some of the email correspondence happened with the studio owner (while he was unaware the sitauation happened at his place), he was shocked to find out that the story took place at his studio, but he was grateful that I didn't make a scene about it at the time or that I wasn't telling everyone where it had happened. What that got me was a free day at the studio any time I wanted to go back.
And I've seen some awesome mother fuckers pull off some really great, great recoveries without batting an eye. No one knew they had done what they'd done to "save" the session. As gripey as I can be here at the "watercooler," those are the guys I want to be like.
Chris Garges
Charlotte, NC _________________ www.chrisgarges.com
www.oldhousestudio.com
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TapeOpLarry TapeOp Admin

Joined: 01 May 2003 Posts: 1492 Location: Portland, OR
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Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2012 2:36 pm Post subject: Re: That "Oh Shit" Feeling |
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Unflappable. That's what ya wanna be. _________________ Larry Crane, Editor/Founder Tape Op Magazine
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Derrick re-cappin' neve

Joined: 26 Nov 2003 Posts: 634 Location: MD/DC Metro Area
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Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2012 2:52 pm Post subject: Re: That "Oh Shit" Feeling |
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From the other side of things... when my band was being recorded years ago, I faced the engineer's "Oh shit!" moment head on. He was really intent on dialing in a great mix and was getting frustrated. Kept turning around to us and saying "Hows that?" even though I could tell he knew the answer already. I happened to be the one to say (diplomatically I might add) that it still wasn't quite right (being very polite and patient). He asked two more times and I him the same answer when he jumped up, picked up his $550 chair and threw it across the warehouse space outside the control room door. It went far... knocking over an old Triumph motorcycle in storage and landing on a vintage pinball machine, smashing it into uselessness. He then stormed out of the studio and was gone. We looked at each other in shock and sat silent for about a minute or so. After mustering up the courage to speak again, we all had to ask if we each saw the same thing or were dreaming. After about 15 minutes of just sitting there alone, we left the studio and looked for the engineer. Ended up finding him walking down the block saying "OK, sorry bout that... let's get back to it. That was unprofessional of me". Um... ya think? We worked with him several times before and several times after that and never that kind of thing. _________________
Derrick
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TapeOpLarry TapeOp Admin

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Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2012 7:26 pm Post subject: Re: That "Oh Shit" Feeling |
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"Oh shit!" indeed _________________ Larry Crane, Editor/Founder Tape Op Magazine
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vvv on a wing and a prayer

Joined: 13 May 2003 Posts: 5625 Location: Chi
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Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2012 8:00 pm Post subject: Re: That "Oh Shit" Feeling |
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| Derrick wrote: | | ... he jumped up, picked up his $550 chair and threw it across the warehouse space outside the control room door. It went far... knocking over an old Triumph motorcycle in storage and landing on a vintage pinball machine, smashing it into uselessness. |
Didja at least record that?  _________________ vlayman; THD; blog; TFP |
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j89 audio school graduate
Joined: 10 Feb 2005 Posts: 12
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Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2012 9:03 am Post subject: Re: That "Oh Shit" Feeling |
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| In general, I make it a point to say "Son of a gun!" That way people won't think that you're that angry and you won't look like a maniac. That's my 2 cents. |
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Beat Poet ass engineer

Joined: 08 Jan 2012 Posts: 48 Location: Hertfordshire, UK
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Posted: Sat Jan 21, 2012 8:11 pm Post subject: Re: That "Oh Shit" Feeling |
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Like has been said, it's best just to stay calm. I recorded a drum track the other day, struggled a bit but managed to nail it eventually, was completely happy and then I accidentally wiped the kick drum track. Logic started being an arse (as programs do) and wouldn't reimport it. I uttered a few four letter words and just did the track again. It was actually better than before, as sometimes a bit of pissed off-ness can give some extra edge to your playing  _________________
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dontfeartheringo audio school graduate
Joined: 14 Feb 2007 Posts: 21
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Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2012 5:12 pm Post subject: Re: That "Oh Shit" Feeling |
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My assistant turned out to be such a solid engineer in his own right that I have now started splitting the money evenly with him and introducing him to clients as "my partner."
He's a bit introverted, doesn't care much for interactions with the talent so much, but I have never seen someone solve problems more methodically. I can very nearly see him walking up the signal chain in his mind when something goes wrong.
In the time that we have worked together, we have only had two "oh, shit" moments and just as I was starting to panic, he reached over to the patch bay and fixed it.
I wish I could write his name on a piece of paper and stick it in an envelope and get $100,000 when he wins a Grammy. Kid's brilliant and I don't ever want to record without him ever again. He's a human swiss army knife. _________________ there'll always be money and whores and drunkards
down to the last bomb,
but as God said,
crossing his legs,
I see where I have made plenty of poets
but not so very much
poetry.
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