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markjazzbassist
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 09, 2016 5:33 pm    Post subject: Re: vinyl collecting ( and surrounding planetary atmosphere ) Reply with quote

cool story shredshine. when i lived in LA my friend had a crazy story of how he bought a Fender Rhodes electric piano off Craigslist. Drove up into the hollywood hills, finds a nice mansion. Wierd Al is in the driveway with the Fender Rhodes. Pays Him cash, and there you have it, he is now the owner of Wierd Al's Rhodes. LOL only in california
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 13, 2016 1:14 am    Post subject: Re: vinyl collecting ( and surrounding planetary atmosphere ) Reply with quote



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Left uses back of original album (on right) for a reissue combining it with the tracks off their 2nd and final album, an ep ďBabyĒ.



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PostPosted: Sat Aug 13, 2016 12:37 pm    Post subject: Re: vinyl collecting ( and surrounding planetary atmosphere ) Reply with quote

I almost picked-up that Jackie Mitoo on my last vinyl jaunt; how do you like it?

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 13, 2016 8:48 pm    Post subject: Re: vinyl collecting ( and surrounding planetary atmosphere ) Reply with quote

Well, it's the sound of everybody hanging out and having a good time.
Booker T does reggae?

"This is reggae music for people who thought they didn't like reggae music, songs that cross musical borders. Jackie Mittoo had such a deft, versatile keyboard playing style that it truly was hard to pigeonhole him or categorize his sound. Yes, his music has roots in 1960s reggae and ska, but it also incorporates soul, jazz, and pop"
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 15, 2016 10:11 am    Post subject: Re: vinyl collecting ( and surrounding planetary atmosphere ) Reply with quote

i have that jackie record too. it's essentially a "best of" his booker t meets reggae songs. funk-dub at its best. i love it. double disc as well, so you get 4 sides of tracks, it's well worth the high asking price (i think i paid 30 new or something).
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I'm digging that matador-cut jacket!

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 17, 2016 5:19 pm    Post subject: Re: vinyl collecting ( and surrounding planetary atmosphere ) Reply with quote

recently just got

badbadnotgood - iii
badbadnotgood - iv
christian scott - stretch music

BBNG is a jazz/hip-hop quartet from canada, very very talented mostly instrumentals.

christian scott is a new orleanian and prodigy on the trumpet, this record is very modern jazz and the flutist is bad as hell! some ripping stuff.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 17, 2016 11:37 pm    Post subject: Re: vinyl collecting ( and surrounding planetary atmosphere ) Reply with quote

Dang MJB, your killing it with the suggestions, two for two. I love that Mittoo double lp, and I'm loving the BadBadNotGood stuff as well.
I had been digging The Bad Plus of late (what is it with all this 'bad' stuff Smile) particularly their "For All I Care" album and wanting to find more of that sort of "jazz meets everything" vibe. Boom!

PS-The site was hanging a bit tonight, but the dreaded "dual authorization pop up window click-dance" did not occur at all.
Something is afoot!
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 18, 2016 10:13 am    Post subject: Re: vinyl collecting ( and surrounding planetary atmosphere ) Reply with quote

shedshrine wrote:
Dang MJB, your killing it with the suggestions, two for two. I love that Mittoo double lp, and I'm loving the BadBadNotGood stuff as well.
I had been digging The Bad Plus of late (what is it with all this 'bad' stuff Smile) particularly their "For All I Care" album and wanting to find more of that sort of "jazz meets everything" vibe. Boom!

PS-The site was hanging a bit tonight, but the dreaded "dual authorization pop up window click-dance" did not occur at all.
Something is afoot!


haha i'm glad you dig man. we must have similar tastes. yes i'm glad the double pop up is gone as well Smile all the vinyl postings and they realized we still use this site maybe Smile

yeah BBNG covered a bunch of hip-hop songs (instrumentally) on their first record and a bunch of MC's and rappers found out and had them be their band for their records. they blew up, Gilles Peterson found out about them and starting playing their stuff and the rest is history. i read some interviews where they used all their money and bought a studio (tascam atr reel to reel for tracking) and that's where they recorded III and IV. which sonically they both sound great, so for some "jazz school kids" to just be able to record and track and have it sound like that, really something special. here's a vid of the video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tylZcUjo1gQ
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 02, 2016 8:48 pm    Post subject: Re: vinyl collecting ( and surrounding planetary atmosphere ) Reply with quote

Fun thread about
vinyl guilt..
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Takes forever to post anything anymore. Too bad the site is so wonky. Don't know that anyone will ever see this. but hey..

Catching up, here are a couple I"ve been waiting a long time to get until I could find them for a *fair* price.

I remember some hooha over this first one..
Chicago Ambassador article



"Linda Perry herself was joined by the likes of .. Lisa Germano, and Sheryl Crow producer Bill Bottrell on In Flight, her 1996 solo debut. Darker and more dynamic than her work with 4 Non Blondes, Perry came into her own as an artist on this exceptional recording. Released on Interscope, In Flight was perhaps too dour or sincere to capitalize on the alt-pop success of 4 Non Blondes and the record was hardly noticed by critics, radio, or fans."


Is it just a west coast thing, accessing this site taking so long?
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 04, 2016 8:34 am    Post subject: Re: vinyl collecting ( and surrounding planetary atmosphere ) Reply with quote

I don't know if its a west coast thing. I don't usually upload much, just replies like this one. Upload/download speeds on the east coast (using Firefox) aren't terribly snappy but aren't molasses either. Thanks for the vinyl guilt link.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 06, 2016 12:13 am    Post subject: Re: vinyl collecting ( and surrounding planetary atmosphere ) Reply with quote

Yeah, I can relate to the guy's plight sometimes. I am constantly going through my collection and trading in stuff that i just don't listen to. I'm at around 1700 albums. I feel fine about that. Smile

One of the great things about having a good sized collection is you have something for any mood your in. Jazz is a constant, it's always time for jazz. And for when you feel particularly scattered or unfocused, or maybe just restless, nothing makes more sense to bring you back to the center than some of this guy's stuff. No, he's not for everybody, but for those of you for whom he is, you know who you are.

I like all these pictured, but the live Nefertiti double lp set has been a favorite.



Free Jazz (from article on John Coltrane's later music)

"Free jazz isnít for everybody, itís definitely some of the least accessible music of any genre, but there is a method to the madness. Free jazz isnít just someone playing willy-nilly, theyíre playing ďoutĒ relative to the form of the song in order to find yet-undiscovered harmonies. Sometimes itís dissonant, sometimes itís consonant, but the whole idea is based on the music being pure, in-the-moment, organic and real. Let the chips fall where they may, like most improvised music. Itís not always friendly to the ear at first, but it does make sense the more you listen to it.

Coltrane approached free jazz I think less from a theoretical approach but from the spiritual mindset. Guys like Ornette Coleman were a bit more meticulous (ironically enough) in their arrangements and improv theory in this style- an Ornette Coleman or Eric Dolphy style melody has a lot of structure and subtlety that cues up to wild and open soloing. Guys like Coltrane and Albert Ayler played it from within and allowed the music to reflect something introspective and eerie. I find they tend to be more loose than a lot of free jazz guys. Thus, thatís why it seems like Trane just sounds like heís blowing erratically. However, he loved Ornette, Albert and Eric deeply. He worked with Eric on a few of his records and concert tours and they certainly shared an affinity. Ornette and Albert both performed at Coltraneís funeral in 1967. So Trane was like a sponge and absorbed all these elements to inform what he wanted to play. In the end, it was just his technique and the sound he felt like he wanted. It may sound random, but there is actually quite a bit of consideration taken in this approach."
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 06, 2016 6:30 pm    Post subject: Re: vinyl collecting ( and surrounding planetary atmosphere ) Reply with quote

Few more from local digging:

A 1966 laminated cover issue of Ornette Coleman's The Shape of Jazz to Come, which I read somewhere caused an 'uproar' because there was no piano on the date, only bass, drums and Ornette:


an original issue in great shape of the only remaining Szabo lp I had been interested in. The covers of his early stuff are often in great shape
because of the thick lamination they used, and this copy had a record in great shape inside as well.


Japan market issued Double lp: one lp of Schenker era UFO's greatest hits, and one of the Michael Schenker Group's greatest hits.

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 21, 2016 8:03 pm    Post subject: Re: vinyl collecting ( and surrounding planetary atmosphere ) Reply with quote

Two companies, Germanyís Newbilt and Toronto-based Viryl Technologies have introduced the first new record-pressing machines in decades.

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 22, 2016 6:26 pm    Post subject: Re: vinyl collecting ( and surrounding planetary atmosphere ) Reply with quote

Things that make the record collecting hobby more enjoyable.
If you already have all this worked out, good for you!

Couple items I've found really found worth a little outlay for a better vinyl experience.
The more I ďgotĒ vinyl the more I appreciated having this little arsenal of goodies.
Condensing these from this thread into one spot.

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A gooseneck LED lamp for checking to see if your record is clean.
http://www.ikea.com/us/en/catalog/products/70169694/


Especially for those less than pristine used records. A vinyl stack record cleaning clamp to hold your record and keep your labels dry over the sink while you wash it.
This should only need be done once on a dirty record, then put in one of those poly lined paper sleeves. Done.
If you are a high roller, by all means by yourself a record cleaning machine.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vinyl-1-Stack-Record-Label-Protector-Clean-Vinyl-Records-Keep-Labels-Dry-/161039100163


Microfiber towels. Wet them for cleaning in the sink with that record clamp from above.
Dry ones to dry the record afterwards. They aren't that absorbent, but when you get the wetness down to a sheen, I grab the edges of the record and kind of whip it up and down a few seconds and it evaporates.
https://www.amazon.com/Chemical-Guys-MIC-MGREEN-12-Professional-Microfiber/dp/B00BQYCJKI/ref=sr_1_8?s=bedbath&ie=UTF8&qid=1482437781&sr=1-8&keywords=microfiber+towels


A carbon fiber brush for cleaning just before you put the needle down. Gets dust off, easy to use.
https://www.amazon.com/AudioQuest-LP-record-clean-brush/dp/B0006VMBHI/ref=sr_1_cc_3?s=aps&ie=UTF8&qid=1482437987&sr=1-3-catcorr&keywords=carbon+fiber+record+cleaning+brush

Anti-static gun. Yep, thatís a $77 price tag.
There are records that just make the hairs on your arm stand up there is so much static. Typically when the weather and or climate is dry.
These anti-static guns might seem like an extravagance until you finally get a static charged record clean only to have it grab every dust particle in the room to itself all over again.
https://www.amazon.com/Milty-Zerostat-Anti-Static-Gun-Blue/dp/B0033SHDSS/ref=sr_1_1?s=musical-instruments&ie=UTF8&qid=1482438088&sr=1-1&keywords=anti+static+gun+for+vinyl

Poly-lined paper sleeves. Keeps the dust off and out and doesnít scuff your records. You wonít have to clean your records again if you put them in these after you do.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B019R8HBMK/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=A1W8MVYMUIM2S3

Called Magic Eraser in Japan. For cleaning your stylus or needle. Cheap and effective. No fluids or brushes.
Just dip it into one of these a couple times and itís clean and ready to go.
https://www.amazon.com/Mr-Clean-Eraser-Cleaning-8-Count/dp/B001339ZMW/ref=sr_1_1?s=home-garden&ie=UTF8&qid=1482439367&sr=1-1-spons&keywords=magic%2Beraser&th=1

Put your entire collection on discogs if you haven't already.

extra credit: a record clamp. those weights that fit over the spindle. You'd be surprised how many by sight flat records actually sink down a little when you put one of these on it. Flattens them right out, gets maximum contact with your mat and it's subtle but I do think I hear better smoother bass on some records with one in place. YMMV Smile
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