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dfuruta
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 31, 2012 11:43 am    Post subject: Replacing the foam in an RE-20 Reply with quote

I just finished refoaming an RE-20 I got on ebay, and I took a bunch of pictures of the process. There are already a few guides to this floating around, but I figure another can't hurt. Maybe part of it will be helpful to someone.

The RE-20 has three essential foam filters that have a tendency to turn into disgusting goop. For some reason, EV decided to combine this charming quality with a mechanical design that makes it a bit of a challenge to take the mic apart. Here's how I managed.

If you do this, please keep in mind that you're only a small slip away from destroying your mic. This isn't the best project if you're totally new to DIY.


Tools you'll need

small flat-head screwdriver
9/64" hex key
0.035" hex key (you can get this from McMaster-Carr for a few cents)
small pliers
wire cutters/strippers
soldering iron (solder wick or a solder sucker will help)
cleaning supplies I used: toothbrush, q-tips, scotch-brite, isopropyl alcohol


Parts you need to get

You can buy these directly from EV's parent company, Telex/Bosch, by calling their customer service line, or you can get them from Full Compass or another distributor.



I have two part numbers for each foam piece. The ones that start with 7823 are their older numbers, I believe, and the ones starting with F01U are current. These prices are what they charged me; these might change, of course. Bosch has a minimum order of $25, and shipping was around $14. It might be cheaper to purchase from a distributor.

From left to right.

78233 - F01U110422 - windscreen - $8.80
78231 - F01U110421 - pop filter - $1.71
78232 - F01U153540 - rear foam - $1.38

If you want, you can also replace the mesh screen that covers the capsule. That part is 78230 - F01U153539 and costs $4.43. I chickened out and didn't replace that on mine. It doesn't degrade like the foam, anyway.

Now, here we go.


Taking the mic apart

Here's what I've got.


First, use the small hex key to remove this screw in the grill.


Once the screw's out, unscrew the grill from the body.


In order to remove the xlr jack, you need to tighten this screw so it no longer prevents the jack from sliding out. Apparently, this sometimes has a dab of glue–if that's the case, dissolve the glue with isopropyl alcohol or acetone. Mine didn't.


Pull the xlr connector out with your pliers.


Remove this hex bolt that was hiding behind the jack with your 9/64" key.



Unscrew this Y shaped bracket. There are three screws holding it in. Note: the ground wire was already broken on my mic. The unshielded copper wire should be attached to a lug.


Carefully pull the electronics assembly out of the mic.


Remove the little pieces of black tubing holding the wires in bundles.


After noting what goes where, desolder or cut the blue and black wires (the ones that go up through the body of the mic) where they connect to the assembly.


Since my mic was really disgusting, I also snipped the wires to the xlr jack for easier cleaning. If your mic is in better shape, you don't need to do this. Gently remove the motor from the top of the mic's body. Here's everything taken apart:



Cleaning the mic

First, I got as much of the gunk out of the body and grill as I could with q-tips, a toothbrush, and isopropyl alcohol.



Next, I cleaned the body, grill, and bottom piece with water, dish soap and scotch-brite, and set them down to dry. In addition to the rotten foam, the grill was coated with schmutz from, I assume, people's filthy mouths.


Carefully clean the electronic parts. I erred on the side of not destroying the motor, rather than getting overzealous. Since the ground wire was broken, I attached a new one to the motor.



Putting it back together

One of the wires going to the xlr jack didn't look good, so I replaced it.


Slide the motor into the large windscreen.


Insert the motor and windscreen into the body. You need to be patient here. Make sure that the wires are threaded down into the bottom of the microphone body.




Put the pop filter into the grill. No need to pack it in tightly.


Screw the grill onto the body, and replace the small screw.



Thread the wires through the bottom foam piece, and push it into place.



Thread the wires through the electronics assembly, and replace that and the Y-shaped bracket. You can solder the wires back before or after you do this, doesn't really matter.



Here it is with the wires from the motor re-attached:


If you removed the wires to the xlr connector, reattached those. Note that they go through the middle of the three holes in the bottom bell.



Put the bottom bell back in place, and bolt it down. If the Y-shaped bracket has a post sticking up, that needs to fit in the outermost of the three holes in the bottom bell. In the background of this picture you can see the parts for some inductors I'm winding...if everything goes as planned, I'll post about that in a couple months.


Put the xlr jack back in place, and lock it with the screw.



And that's it! If everything went well, you've got a nice, working mic...at least, until the next time its innards turn to a sticky mess.

If anyone has successfully replaced the mesh that covers the capsule, I'd like to hear how that's done. It seemed too risky to me, but perhaps I was being overly cautious.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 31, 2012 12:28 pm    Post subject: Re: Replacing the foam in an RE-20 Reply with quote

Wow! Thanks for taking the time and energy to put this excellent post together for us! thumbs up
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 31, 2012 12:45 pm    Post subject: Re: Replacing the foam in an RE-20 Reply with quote

Yes, very cool thanks
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 31, 2012 12:57 pm    Post subject: Re: Replacing the foam in an RE-20 Reply with quote

No problem. I figure it's best to keep decent documentation, as I'm sure I'll need to do this again, and so there's no reason not to put up a post.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 31, 2012 8:46 pm    Post subject: Re: Replacing the foam in an RE-20 Reply with quote

Excellent!
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 20, 2014 12:55 pm    Post subject: new part numbers as of March 2014 Reply with quote

I just spoke to Patty @ Bosch and they are going to send me my foam kit. The whole kit is only $11, shipping is $10. They still have a $25 minimum on parts, but Patty let me skate since it was so close!

here are updated Bosch/EV part numbers with the old numbers

F01U 264975 ( replaces 78233-windscreen and 78230-acoustic filter )
F01U 153540 ( 78232-rear foam )
F01U 110421 (78231-pop filter )
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 20, 2014 1:37 pm    Post subject: Re: Replacing the foam in an RE-20 Reply with quote

Wow, what incredible timing! I just got hold of an old RE-20 last Saturday and was just looking at this thread to see about getting the replacement foam. Thanks so much for posting the part numbers, and glad to hear the prices are still reasonable. If I call EV, I guess I can just ask for Patty?

BTW, at the risk of incurring envy bombs, I found the RE-20 with shockmount at a yard sale--$50. Shocked Very Happy
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 20, 2014 1:39 pm    Post subject: Re: Replacing the foam in an RE-20 Reply with quote

germaniac wrote:
I found the RE-20 with shockmount at a yard sale--$50. Shocked Very Happy

SCORE! thumbs up
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 20, 2014 1:45 pm    Post subject: Re: Replacing the foam in an RE-20 Reply with quote

rhythm ranch wrote:
germaniac wrote:
I found the RE-20 with shockmount at a yard sale--$50. Shocked Very Happy

SCORE! thumbs up


Thanks! And may the same good luck alight upon you!
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 21, 2014 2:42 pm    Post subject: Re: Replacing the foam in an RE-20 Reply with quote

I just ordered the three foam parts from Full Compass on the recommendation of Adam at EV/Bosch. Not only were EV back-ordered on one part, but he said he doubted he could waive the minimum order charge. As it turned out, Full Compass had all the parts, and although those totaled $15 instead of $11, their shipping was only $5, so the grand total came to about $20 anyway. If you order from Full Compass, the parts are listed under the older Telex part numbers (provided by woodensoul above).

BTW, Adam also mentioned that part #78233 (the windscreen) had been redesigned in the newer mics, so that it's slightly longer and won't fit exactly in older mics unless trimmed about a 1/3" or so.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 14, 2016 1:45 am    Post subject: Re: Replacing the foam in an RE-20 Reply with quote

Thanks so much for this. I'm working on replacing the foam in my PL20, but the head basket hex screw seems to be stripped. I'd rather not try to drill into it given the small size,

Also, the xlr jack isn't budging even though the retaining screw seems to be turning properly. I've tried seeing if rubbing alcohol can clean out any glue or gunk that might be stopping it but no luck so far.

anyone have any ideas?
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 14, 2016 1:25 pm    Post subject: Re: Replacing the foam in an RE-20 Reply with quote

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anyone have any ideas?


Try some heat...a hairdryer on it's hottest setting, or a heat gun on low/medium.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 18, 2016 7:47 pm    Post subject: Re: Replacing the foam in an RE-20 Reply with quote

The Scum wrote:


Try some heat...a hairdryer on it's hottest setting, or a heat gun on low/medium.


The heat gun did the trick on the XLR jack, thanks.

The stripped hex bolt I may try using a torx bit to get out, have to find one of the appropriate size.
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