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mikey_grapes
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 01, 2012 2:22 pm    Post subject: Made on a 488MKii and pressed to vinyl Reply with quote

Mike Uva & the Bad Eyes
'LADY, TELL ME STRAIGHT'


http://mikeuva.bandcamp.com

We made this record on a Tascam 488mkii, using an Aphex 107 preamp and these mics: RE-20, AT4033, SM81, SM58. Vinyl pressed here in Cleveland by Gotta Groove!

Thanks for listening.
Mike
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banana brains
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 03, 2012 12:56 pm    Post subject: Re: Made on a 488MKii and pressed to vinyl Reply with quote

Thanks for posting this. It sounds GREAT! I'd like to purchase the vinyl album. Yep, I think I will.

How did you mix it? Master it?

Care to share anything about the process of getting it recorded with such limited equipment? What was most difficult, most satisfying, etc?

Thanks again, hats off to you sir!
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 03, 2012 4:50 pm    Post subject: Re: Made on a 488MKii and pressed to vinyl Reply with quote

Wow.

Awesome.


I.

Love.

It!

Gives me hope for the future of music, no lie.

GJ
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ott0bot
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 04, 2012 12:47 am    Post subject: Re: Made on a 488MKii and pressed to vinyl Reply with quote

great stuff. nice job on keeping the noise under control. I have one of those units and the stock pre's are so noisy and have no headroom...so you end up recording too hot the hiss gets out of control. did you use the noise reduction?

I bookmarked your page and I'll definately listen more later.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 05, 2012 10:35 am    Post subject: Re: Made on a 488MKii and pressed to vinyl Reply with quote

ott0bot wrote:
great stuff. nice job on keeping the noise under control. I have one of those units and the stock pre's are so noisy and have no headroom...so you end up recording too hot the hiss gets out of control. did you use the noise reduction?


Thanks! Yes, I've always used the noise reduction on this unit. Also, the gentleman who did mastering (Adam Boose at Cauliflower Audio) did take out a bit of noise in the quieter parts.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 05, 2012 11:02 am    Post subject: Re: Made on a 488MKii and pressed to vinyl Reply with quote

tdrop wrote:
Thanks for posting this. It sounds GREAT! I'd like to purchase the vinyl album. Yep, I think I will.

How did you mix it? Master it?

Care to share anything about the process of getting it recorded with such limited equipment? What was most difficult, most satisfying, etc?


Thanks! It was recorded entirely on the Tascam and mixed down directly to a Alesis Masterlink (which kept crashing, but that's another story). Used an ART effects unit for some reverb.

Since my budget was, like, nonexistent, I went into this with fairly low expectations with regard to fidelity; it was just important for me to get some songs recorded and I figured I might as well embrace the limitations of my ol' cassette 8-track and see how far I could get just trusting my ears. Just use what you have! You can surprise yourself.

Much of it was tracked live, with the RE-20 on the (upright) bass, one mic a few feet out from the drumkit (SM-81 usually), and then I sang and played guitar in front of the 4033. There was a lot of bleed, we recorded in small rooms.

On a few songs I recorded guitar and vocals and then had the fellas overdub drums/keys/bass. "California" was just me and a nylon-string. I finished overdubs in my basement (over the course of a year) sometimes carting the unit around town to meet up with the pedal steel, guitar, and trumpet players. It was a really laid back experience, the "guest musicians" had a lot of insight and generally knocked out great performances in one or two takes.

I really didn't use compression at all, I have a cheapo Alesis 3630 but don't really know how to use it and didn't enjoy what it was doing so I let it be.

I did however spend $$ on mastering and I am glad I did. (Adam Boose at Cauliflower Audio)

I would say mixing was the most difficult and in general just finding time to work on finishing the whole thing, as I am a busy family man. I think the next project I will just do a couple songs at a time, have other people involved in recording and mixing, instead of having 10-12 songs in various states of completion worrying my head.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 05, 2012 6:08 pm    Post subject: Re: Made on a 488MKii and pressed to vinyl Reply with quote

Wow, it definiely sounds like guys in one room, so kudos again.

I was going to say I really dig the acoustic bass sound. Just an RE-20, aye?

GJ
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 05, 2012 10:39 pm    Post subject: Re: Made on a 488MKii and pressed to vinyl Reply with quote

thanks for the inspiration

I order the vinyl on Sunday! Can't wait for it to arrive.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 06, 2012 9:56 am    Post subject: Re: Made on a 488MKii and pressed to vinyl Reply with quote

these recordings sound very good especially for a cassette based recording.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 09, 2012 10:52 pm    Post subject: Re: Made on a 488MKii and pressed to vinyl Reply with quote

Mike,

Just got my album yesterday. Just got the kids to bed, sitting here enjoying your tunes. Just great stuff all the way.

Is the squeaking on "Where do you want me" bleed from your acoustic guitar into your vocal mic?

Not criticizing, just curious. I feel like I can learn a lot about the recording process from this record.

Regardless, it really is great. The songs are fantastic!

Take care,
Seth
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 11, 2012 5:20 pm    Post subject: Re: Made on a 488MKii and pressed to vinyl Reply with quote

Man, this sounds cool. You can really feel the vibe of the room.

I have a 488 MKII too. I love that thing!
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mikey_grapes
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 13, 2012 9:09 am    Post subject: Re: Made on a 488MKii and pressed to vinyl Reply with quote

tdrop wrote:
Mike,

Is the squeaking on "Where do you want me" bleed from your acoustic guitar into your vocal mic?



Yes it's just the string squeak (nylon string guitar) in the guitar mic. I think I did have a separate mic set up for vox but yes there would definitely have been some bleed. Glad you dig the record!
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 21, 2012 1:25 pm    Post subject: Re: Made on a 488MKii and pressed to vinyl Reply with quote

I had to check out a guy called Mikey Grapes...

yeah, everybody else pretty much said it already but this sounds great!

not 'great for something recorded dirt cheap' (which is bonus) just great!
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 22, 2012 9:30 pm    Post subject: Re: Made on a 488MKii and pressed to vinyl Reply with quote

another question mikey...
how much did the vinyl pressing cost?

I'm considering putting out an EP on vinyl and I know I won't be selling a lot, mostly digital downloads. just trying to spec out a few things and have got a several varied answers.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 22, 2012 10:42 pm    Post subject: Re: Made on a 488MKii and pressed to vinyl Reply with quote

Hey, so far (thanks to "mikey grapes" post) the best price I've found is at Gotta Groove, and they seem to do pretty short runs. And they got back to me via e-mail within one day. So right now, I'm leaning in that direction...

GJ
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