LANDR - automated mastering - really?!?!

chorga1 · Post by **chorga1** » Mon Jul 07, 2014 1:07 pm

I'll stick with my mastering person, but thought y'all should know...

https://www.landr.com/

The Scum · Post by **The Scum** » Mon Jul 07, 2014 1:14 pm

Hmmm...

Pro Unlimited

* for Single Artist use only

That sounds like a limitation to me.

Nick Sevilla · Post by **Nick Sevilla** » Mon Jul 07, 2014 9:50 pm

I know someone who consulted for this.

He got paid well, I imagine.

I would never use this, but for no budget stuff, where all you want is LOUDER, well, go for it.

alexdingley · Post by **alexdingley** » Tue Jul 08, 2014 10:58 am

Nick Sevilla wrote: I would never use this, but for no budget stuff, where all you want is LOUDER, well, go for it.

Well said Nick. I'm hardly making a living off my recording work, but I'll still pay for a human to master my work.

vvv · Post by **vvv** » Tue Jul 08, 2014 12:06 pm

I'm gonna run all of my songs through this, every one, everyone.

Really.

All at once.

It'll be loud enuff to cause the end of the world.

adayinalife · Post by **adayinalife** » Tue Jul 08, 2014 2:39 pm

Hi Everyone,

I work for the bot, I am also a musician and Tape Op reader, go easy on me. I run the blog: www.blog.landr.com

@thescum the single artist clause is to separate labels and businesses from individual users.

Otherwise, ask me what anything, I'll do my best to respond. Let's keep it smart and kind. Please, these forums can get so dark!

digitaldrummer · Post by **digitaldrummer** » Wed Jul 09, 2014 7:47 am

I'd like to see another online bot for AutoTuning your mixes. I see 2 necessary options:

1. tune everything (including out of tune guitars)
2. make everything sound like Cher/T-Pain

and maybe a 3rd option to do all of the above?

I imagine everyone will want to run all of their songs through it.

and why not another for fixing the drums with options like:

1. make all drums sound like Def Leppard
2. change drummer to Steve Gadd

heck, I might even use the last one (the free version of course...).

Waltz Mastering · Post by **Waltz Mastering** » Wed Jul 09, 2014 8:24 am

adayinalife wrote:
I work for the bot!

Sorry to hear that

adayinalife · Post by **adayinalife** » Thu Jul 10, 2014 11:31 am

So much for keeping it cool!

chorga1 · Post by **chorga1** » Thu Jul 10, 2014 11:37 am

@adayinalife

Lecturing members, albeit briefly, in your 2 initial posts is probably not the best way to engender yourself to the community or make us want to ask you ANY questions...

Randyman... · Post by **Randyman...** » Thu Jul 10, 2014 2:55 pm

AAMS preceded this by a good half decade or more - Probably just as useful

tjcasey1 · Post by **tjcasey1** » Fri Jul 11, 2014 4:42 am

@adayinthelife:

With all due respect, I don't think your product would go over well with a group like this one. It's kind of like producing paint-by-number oil kits and then trying to sell them to a colony of fine artists.

I'm sure there are lots of other people who will use your service, though. And you didn't post it here, someone else did. There's no reason for us to make fun of it.

Best of luck.

(And now I'm going to try to write a song about it, if I can get my auto-songwriting software to work...)

norton · Post by **norton** » Fri Jul 11, 2014 8:25 am

I'm curious about how the system works. Are we talking about something that goes beyond normalization?

Some sort of frequency analysis program?

adayinalife · Post by **adayinalife** » Mon Jul 14, 2014 8:31 am

@chorga1

Apologies, if you thought I was lecturing you, definitely wasn't my intention. I just wanted to give a voice to a company that is trying to do something interesting, like I said I am a longtime home producer and Tape Op reader so this community is important to me.

@norton, yes it goes far beyond normalization, basically it 'listens' and analyzes a track and responds using big data, similar to shazam or pandora. Then it treats the track the way a mastering engineer would.

I use it already for demos and rehearsals, things that I wouldn't want to tinker forever with in Ozone or T-racks, because it's an algorithm it's getting better by the day and I can definitely see it getting to a point where people are using it for commercial releases.

Already tons of supporters for it. Not trying to sway anyone here but I do think there is space in the production sphere for 1. the high level engineers 2. the home producers 3. this kind of tech for people who don't have a budget and or need a quick and decent solution.

MoreSpaceEcho · Post by **MoreSpaceEcho** » Thu Jul 24, 2014 2:24 pm

there were threads about this on various mastering boards. a bunch of us uploaded mixes to try it out. the consensus was it sucks. unless you happen to like painful treble and obvious pumping/distortion. which hey, maybe you do!

try it out and see for yourself, it's easy enough.

there's so many really good, totally reasonably priced ME's around, i don't know why anyone wouldn't avail themselves of that talent, but if you really don't want to pay a professional to master your record and are considering using landr (what committee of geniuses came up with that name?) instead....just do the mastering yourself, you'll screw it up a lot less.

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