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PostPosted: Sat Jun 13, 2015 10:28 am    Post subject: Should a Beyer m500 be able to handle a 100 watt Marshall? Reply with quote

I just picked up a used m500 and only had about ten minutes to test it out. I put it about three inches from a 4x12 with a 100 watt jcm800 and it was distorting/buzzing pretty badly. I know folks love these on guitar, but am I dreaming by throwing it on a 100 watter? Or perhaps I bought a clunker?

Any knowledge or advice would be appreciated. Of course I'll be trying it on a lower wattage amp soon to see how that fairs.

On a possibly related note, who does reputable work on these now a days? :)

Thanks!
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 13, 2015 11:47 am    Post subject: Re: Should a Beyer m500 be able to handle a 100 watt Marshall? Reply with quote

I had one re-ribboned at Samar Audio a couple years ago, it took a while but sounded good once I got it back.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 13, 2015 6:49 pm    Post subject: Re: Should a Beyer m500 be able to handle a 100 watt Marshall? Reply with quote

I got one as a gift from a friend a year or two ago - basement cleanout, rotted case foam, etc.

Turned out the resonator (mechanical filter thingy) was loose inside because the glue had gone bad.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 30, 2015 2:20 pm    Post subject: Re: Should a Beyer m500 be able to handle a 100 watt Marshall? Reply with quote

If you don't feel a large blast of air on the back of your hand where you're putting that mic, it should be fine. However, since you bought the mic used, there's a good chance that the ribbon has stretched.

Jon at Shiny Box will repair these. (He does Beyer M260sm as well, but not M160s.) I haven't needed to send him mine yet, but he just did a stellar job on one of my Coles 4038s. He's gonna be my go-to repair guy for that kind of stuff now. There's an easy reference page on his website for it.

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 30, 2015 3:03 pm    Post subject: Re: Should a Beyer m500 be able to handle a 100 watt Marshall? Reply with quote

I had him repair a damaged 23L I bought used - did a great job.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 30, 2015 3:05 pm    Post subject: Re: Should a Beyer m500 be able to handle a 100 watt Marshall? Reply with quote

Thanks for the info, that's good to know! Luckily I was able to return the mic to the person I bought it from, so no repairs needed at this moment! :)
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 30, 2015 3:07 pm    Post subject: Re: Should a Beyer m500 be able to handle a 100 watt Marshall? Reply with quote

For whatever it's worth, the M500 is a really under-rated mic. I hate that they stopped making it.

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 30, 2015 3:57 pm    Post subject: Re: Should a Beyer m500 be able to handle a 100 watt Marshall? Reply with quote

cgarges wrote:
If you don't feel a large blast of air on the back of your hand where you're putting that mic, it should be fine. However, since you bought the mic used, there's a good chance that the ribbon has stretched.

Jon at Shiny Box will repair these. (He does Beyer M260sm as well, but not M160s.) I haven't needed to send him mine yet, but he just did a stellar job on one of my Coles 4038s. He's gonna be my go-to repair guy for that kind of stuff now. There's an easy reference page on his website for it.

Chris Garges
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Another satisfied customer of Jon here. He fixed my Beyer m260 and also souped up my TOMB ribbon. Great guy who builds some great mics and preamps. His ribbon mics and his Si 4 preamp gets used on every session.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 30, 2015 5:23 pm    Post subject: Re: Should a Beyer m500 be able to handle a 100 watt Marshall? Reply with quote

I have a stock M500 but never use it on anything but vocals; I think of it as smoove.

I recall roscoenyc reco'd it some time ago, here.

(Just used it this month and it can be heard on all vocals here and here - rest of the recording chain is listed below the lyrics.)
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 30, 2015 10:05 pm    Post subject: Re: Should a Beyer m500 be able to handle a 100 watt Marshall? Reply with quote

Speaking of M500 repairs, anybody know anything about getting fresh foam for inside the grille? It all rotted out on mine.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 01, 2015 12:05 pm    Post subject: Re: Should a Beyer m500 be able to handle a 100 watt Marshall? Reply with quote

Scodiddly wrote:
Speaking of M500 repairs, anybody know anything about getting fresh foam for inside the grille? It all rotted out on mine.

Call Beyerdynamic...

The M500 won't be able to take loud amps or drum close micing without distorting.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 01, 2015 11:31 pm    Post subject: Re: Should a Beyer m500 be able to handle a 100 watt Marshall? Reply with quote

vvv wrote:
I recall roscoenyc reco'd it some time ago, here.


He used it to record lead vocals at my place a few years ago. Sounded awesome. I've done it a few times myself since then.

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 02, 2015 9:21 am    Post subject: Re: Should a Beyer m500 be able to handle a 100 watt Marshall? Reply with quote

cgarges wrote:
vvv wrote:
I recall roscoenyc reco'd it some time ago, here.


He used it to record lead vocals at my place a few years ago. Sounded awesome. I've done it a few times myself since then.

Chris Garges
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It's still a real favorite at our place.
Thanks for the tip on Shinybox ribbon repairs!
A hyper cardiod ribbon makes the M-500 a really unique mic.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 02, 2015 10:29 am    Post subject: Re: Should a Beyer m500 be able to handle a 100 watt Marshall? Reply with quote

Plus, they look cool. Twisted Evil


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 02, 2015 11:08 am    Post subject: Re: Should a Beyer m500 be able to handle a 100 watt Marshall? Reply with quote

one other thing to consider about repairing these mics, not everyone will replace the ribbon with the same style originally used in the mic. When I bought a couple of these they had been re-ribboned using a more "traditional" corrugation pattern. One of the reasons I had mine re-done at Samar audio is he's able to do the original Beyer style corrugation.
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