What Happened?

Drone · Post by **Drone** » Sat Jan 23, 2016 3:59 pm

https://youtu.be/8M370TrrrNw

This happens to me, every once in a while, and I have no idea what causes it. I record lots of live stuff, lots of jams, and every once in a while this happens.

This time it happened at the very end of a session, only the last 10 minutes or so were affected. The rest of the session recorded OK. Nothing was touched or restarted, it just suddenly did this just before we started playing this track.

It's on all the tracks, even the direct guitar track, there's no live microphones, all the mics were for recording only.

This is just the drum mics and the direct guitar in this mix, with the guitar down low, as I feel it's easiest to hear the distortion in the drums than the fuzzy guitar.

Gregg Juke · Post by **Gregg Juke** » Sat Jan 23, 2016 4:29 pm

Wow, Dude. "Never Mind the Bollocks, we're In the Court of the Wishbone Sabbath King."

What is your (exact, detailed) signal path? Into what DAW?

GJ

Drone · Post by **Drone** » Sat Jan 23, 2016 5:55 pm

Working Backwards.

Audacity running under XP on an off network machine
Delta 1010-LT PCI
2 Tracks Line Level into the first two inputs from Guitar Preamp
6 Tracks into a Soundcraft 500, 3 drum mics, 2 amp mics 1 DI (post fuzz) into other 6 inputs of 1010LT

JWL · Post by **JWL** » Sat Jan 23, 2016 6:58 pm

I used to use Delta 1010LTs, and that would happen periodically. Of course that was a few versions of Windows ago, and back when I was using Sonar, so who knows what it is.

I used to reboot and that would fix it, but yeah you don't relaly know it's happening until you listen back. Sucked.

Drone · Post by **Drone** » Sat Jan 23, 2016 7:01 pm

So was your solution to update windows, or update the interface?

JWL · Post by **JWL** » Sat Jan 23, 2016 10:14 pm

I upgraded the interface (to a USB interface I could also use on my laptop) and that problem hasn't happened since.

Could be coincidence.... lots of things changed besides the interface. Not the least of which is that I almost never track into that same computer anymore.

floid · Post by **floid** » Sat Jan 23, 2016 10:26 pm

I've had a 1010lt in a Win7 machine running Reaper for years and have not encountered this yet.

Drone · Post by **Drone** » Sun Jan 24, 2016 10:51 am

Hmm, so maybe it's XP, or the drivers therein.

I could upgrade to Win 7, but then I worry it's such a dog, I'm thinking I might just install a small linux partition just for tracking with Audacity. Leave XP for the rest.

JWL · Post by **JWL** » Sun Jan 24, 2016 9:11 pm

Yeah could be XP. That's what I was running on that machine BITD.....

Drone · Post by **Drone** » Mon Jan 25, 2016 6:00 am

Yeah, BITD is where this machine is from, circa 2006 or so was when I bought and installed it.

vvv · Post by **vvv** » Mon Jan 25, 2016 12:30 pm

I was trying to recall where I heard that sound before, and then I remembered.

It was when I updated my M-Audio Delta 44 drivers in WinXPpro.

The last driver version sucked, so try the penultimate (2nd to last), if you don't have it.

Drone · Post by **Drone** » Mon Jan 25, 2016 12:56 pm

Is it possible M-Audio became aware of this and removed it?

If I go to their website, select my card (1010-LT) and OS (XP SP3) it says:

Delta 1010LT 5.10.00.5057v3 (PC) 05-04-2007

is the latest and greatest

and yet installed I have 5.10.0.5069 from 3/3/2008

which I think just installed with it, I probably had it net connected just for the update. You think changing the driver is a good idea?

JWL · Post by **JWL** » Mon Jan 25, 2016 2:26 pm

If it were me I would try the older driver (ie, the most recent one on the website). Can't hurt, right?

Maybe set up a restore point first if you are paranoid and want to get back to your inadvertently bitcrushy recordings....

Drone · Post by **Drone** » Mon Jan 25, 2016 2:57 pm

The problem is knowing if it's fixed, as it only happens once in a great while.

I wonder if it's space related too, I was just about to archive a bunch of stuff from the project drive to the backup drive, but it still had several gig free, but maybe it was having to hunt for space?

It's been archived, and the drive compacted now. I'll stick that driver on a thumb drive and give it a whirl I guess.

vvv · Post by **vvv** » Mon Jan 25, 2016 4:10 pm

You can try rolling back the driver in Device Manager, BTW.

If that won't work, PM me and I'll try to find and send it - I'm pretty sure the 44 and 1010 use the same one.

I went back to and use 5.10.0.5057, dated 1/9/2006, which I think is about the same one you said is on the site.

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