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were you recording them for free?

XY... one on top of the other, as in one hanging down from the shockmount angled 90 degrees. in the corner of the room. besides piano and "hifi toms", i think this is my favorite application for them!

-mike

new mix up (edited into OP)

Sorry, the new mix is actually up NOW. My ftp program fucked up.

I disagree. I think you should just have the vocals going in that section. Sounds great that way. This debate also goes on in my mind... I like the idea of losing the guitars for a verse, to add variety, but its kind of cheesy... and it makes the band cutting out on 'drugs' less effective. I'll pri...

new mix. thanks for all the comments guys

http://www.sleepytownsound.com/mike/GIVING%20UP.mp3

new mix up, same link. eq'd offending one note guitar to remove 'muddiness'.

I'm guessing your a Shins fan? :) (Not meant in a 'fvck this sounds derived' way). Keep in mind I'm mainly a music fan and musician and not a sound engineer (but have helped mix several albums from a listener standpoint). I would agree with an ealier poster that the first thing I noticed sonically ...

sometimes plugins make me feel nauseous... i've heard similar things sometimes with plugin compressors, too, strange modulated density that really affects me on a physical level. again, not always, but when it happens it is REALLY a weird sensation... i feel like i have to yawn or clear my ears or ...

Re the original question, here's a dichotomy I find useful: Try thinking of musicmakers as divided into two tribes (with some overlap): The PROCESS PEOPLE make music mostly because they enjoy the internal creative experience -- the doing of it is the main attraction. It might become a "profession" ...

@?,*???&? wrote:As for headaches and nausea from loud sounds, imagine being one of the guys storming these beaches:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tSx-Hb9S ... re=related

A nauseous mix engineer? A pansy me thinks...holy crap.

WTF

dwlb wrote:Are your speakers out of phase?

ha!

Then try this special creme, created by engineers FOR engineers! No, really, does anyone else regularly get headaches or just feel physically unwell when mixing? I do almost every time. Of course, I get headaches a lot... but the combination of relatively loud volumes + intense concentration + hunch...

i just put up a new mix again (removed shitty plugin from master buss, made a few tweaks on my trusty sony walkman headphones)

That sounded better. I like the super compressed sound of the vocals/guitar, were they tracked together? I actually I wana hear the cell phone mix now, I always used to do quick demos on my cell phone, so I'm fond of that sound. The vocals and guitar were tracking on the same $1 (yes, $1) hi-z mic,...