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I find a lot of people who dislike 20-somethings don't know, but are makin either a judgement on how they were, or simply stereotyping everyone young. And typically they aren't even close with any 20 year olds. Personally I'm 24, and have some great older friends who teach me things, and vice versa...

Mark wrote:No, that was in answer to someone asking for the names of people who were out of their 20s when they started in music.

I'm pretty sure those two chaps were.

Nah, Don was a pup when he started.
Pax, Steve

Mark wrote:Leonard Cohen?

Don Van Vliet?

Yes.
Don't mind if I do.
Pax, Steve

toaster3000 wrote:the fact that you're listening to the radio could be the source of your problems. the radio is fucking depressing, especially in massachusetts... waaf anyone? *blarp*

john

No shit. "WAAF... We only stop the Nickleback once an hour."
Pax, Steve

Rigs, I think that happens to any artist who puts out that much material--and basically puts out whatever he wants, everything he writes, with no external controls. Prince has the same problem. With no one to tell him "that's maybe not yer best work, man" he slings lots of crap into the shops. I re...

And in all truth I find most young folk nowadays self-involved, juvinile and immature. most PEOPLE nowadays are self-involved, juvenile and immature. and it's not like that just started yesterday or anything. dunno man, i'm 35, i know loads of amazing people in their 20s. Yup. It's the new narcisis...

djdrake13 wrote:You said that the people Toaster 3000 listed were adult, educated.. etc.. dont' remember??

Actually I over looked KC. Sorry. I will edify you now.His lyrics sucked. I was mostly commenting on the fossils mentioned.
Curious, how old are you?
Pax, Steve

That's because the industry is not fond of signing groups that are not in their early twenties and looking good walking away. Also the cultural move towards self indulgent narcissism hads not helped. And in all truth I find most young folk nowadays self-involved, juvinile and immature. That artists...

pop culture has always been about looking good. the beatles, bowie, dylan were all stylish motherfuckers. the beatles were like a fucking boy band when they started. there's just less good music out there now... the general quality level of the cultural aesthetic has dropped significantly. my frien...

to each his own. my point was just that trying to make it an age based argument as opposed to purely on the basis of being sucking is kinda lame-o. good bands are good, shite bands are shite.... there just aren't enough good bands out there anymore... but i can't think of an artist coming out with ...

Devlars wrote: Holy crap! I knew I was right about this sort of thing but I didn't realize to what degree!

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
We are all doomed.
Pax, Steve

(of course expecting a young twenty something to have something meaningful to say may also have something to do with this specific problem.) yeah... all those 20 somethings like Bob Dylan, John Lennon, Kurt Kobain, David Bowie, Nick Drake, Thom Yorke... they had nothing to say... i can't think of a...

Mark wrote:

Stephen wrote:Oh and let's not forget brickwall limiting.
Pax, Steve

Why not?

Probably be the best thing all round if everyone did.

I agree...
Pax, Steve

Are we supposed to tell bands that we are experimenting on them? Just curious.
Pax, Steve

Well, just from the fact that an album is generally made from the same performers, in the same physical space, and with one producer's / engineer's approaches, most albums will have a consistency to them. Unless they are one of those heinous recent modern recordings with those useless protools plug...