compressor plug-in help

a computer-related recording forum with user woes, how-to's and hints
Locked
User avatar
apropos of nothing
dead but not forgotten
Posts: 2193
Joined: Tue May 13, 2003 6:29 am
Location: Minneapolis, MN
Contact:

compressor plug-in help

Post by apropos of nothing » Thu Apr 22, 2004 10:34 am

There's so much talk about compression as a topic, and yet I've never felt like I quite "got it".

I ruined a project sometime last year with overcompression.

Well, live and learn. I figured out something about the compressor plug-in that hadn't quite dawned on me previously.

It sounds great -- you just have to turn down the mix knob so that you're not getting ONLY the compressed signal. 60/40 dry/wet seems like a good place to start. The track then stands up but doesn't sound like its an 18-wheeler going 75mph toward you.

Amazing. Amazing. Who knew?

Thought I'd share.

Love,

jellisnyc
audio school graduate
Posts: 12
Joined: Wed Apr 14, 2004 4:41 pm
Location: New York City
Contact:

Re: compressor plug-in help

Post by jellisnyc » Fri Apr 23, 2004 11:54 am

I've found that I like to make duplicates of the more important tracks that need compression - kick, snare, vocals, etc. - and compress one, leave the other as is. then you can adjust in your mixer.

i started doing this when i wanted to see what it was like for engineers before plug-ins existed. they had to run the signal out to a compressor and then back to it's own track and mix accordingly. Emulating this method sounds better to me.
J Ellis
Athletics - http://athleticsnyc.com/
Spirit World - http://fucknewyorkcity.com/

User avatar
Mr. Dipity
carpal tunnel
Posts: 1528
Joined: Mon Jun 16, 2003 11:29 am

Re: compressor plug-in help

Post by Mr. Dipity » Fri Apr 23, 2004 3:01 pm

jellisnyc wrote:I've found that I like to make duplicates of the more important tracks that need compression - kick, snare, vocals, etc. - and compress one, leave the other as is. then you can adjust in your mixer.

i started doing this when i wanted to see what it was like for engineers before plug-ins existed. they had to run the signal out to a compressor and then back to it's own track and mix accordingly. Emulating this method sounds better to me.
Watch out - this won't work if your plugin has any sort of internal latency. Even a latency compensating rendering engine, such as Nuendo, won't necessarily fix this. For example, you can't do it with the Rennaissance compressor in cubase, for example.

jellisnyc
audio school graduate
Posts: 12
Joined: Wed Apr 14, 2004 4:41 pm
Location: New York City
Contact:

Re: compressor plug-in help

Post by jellisnyc » Fri Apr 23, 2004 3:24 pm

I've run into plug-in latency issues before, but never when I'm running the plug-ins directly on tracks. It usually only happens when I use a send in cubase.

Maybe I'm just a badass... i dunno
J Ellis
Athletics - http://athleticsnyc.com/
Spirit World - http://fucknewyorkcity.com/

User avatar
fillmoresound
gimme a little kick & snare
Posts: 98
Joined: Wed Feb 25, 2004 9:44 am
Location: NYC
Contact:

Re: compressor plug-in help

Post by fillmoresound » Sun Apr 25, 2004 9:35 am

To compensate for latency, nudge your audio a bit. This should solve most of your problems, and it should only be a handfull of samples off. Have you tried using the plug-in as an aux? Set the outputs of your track to an aux, and return it on an open i/o w/ plug-in on the new track. Sending a certain amout on the aux send will blend your compressed/non-compressed signal. You've probably already tried this, but it is definitely a great technique. Plus, you can share the comp plug-in w/ other tracks since its on an aux and save dsp power.

Anyway, happy mixing

Locked

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 57 guests