recording into Soundforge -- what am i doing wrong?

a computer-related recording forum with user woes, how-to's and hints
Locked
lilcapn
gimme a little kick & snare
Posts: 77
Joined: Thu May 08, 2003 2:51 pm
Location: North Carolina

recording into Soundforge -- what am i doing wrong?

Post by lilcapn » Mon Jun 30, 2003 9:49 am

so i'm using a Presonus Firestation to go into a laptop, recording mostly little keyboard lines (casio style) into Soundforge to add to tracks i've got going in Acid.

it appears to work fine, but then when i play it back it's like at half-speed or something... everything is set up at 48 khz (soundforge and acid) so that should be compatible -- are there other parameters i'm likely not having set correctly?

thanks!

User avatar
cassembler
suffering 'studio suck'
Posts: 414
Joined: Wed May 07, 2003 8:38 am
Location: control room
Contact:

Re: recording into Soundforge -- what am i doing wrong?

Post by cassembler » Mon Jun 30, 2003 12:43 pm

I had the same problem in Cubase a few years ago. Turns out the computer just couldn't handle it. But I assume that since Acid works fine then it's a Sound Forge option.

Depending on *how much* slower it's playing back, I'm led to believe that it is, in fact, a sample rate issue. Are you sure the Firestation supports 48? No, that wouldn't be the problem or else it would play back *faster*....

Hmmm.... When you record the file and then check it's attributes, does the info say that it's 48k?
http://www.dfwsound.com (production co)
http://www.dfwsoundvision.com (studio)
"Man is doomed to perpetually fluctuate between states of extreme boredom and extreme turbulence."

User avatar
cassembler
suffering 'studio suck'
Posts: 414
Joined: Wed May 07, 2003 8:38 am
Location: control room
Contact:

Re: recording into Soundforge -- what am i doing wrong?

Post by cassembler » Mon Jun 30, 2003 12:47 pm

Another question, are you monitoring through the outputs of Sound Forge while you're recording?
http://www.dfwsound.com (production co)
http://www.dfwsoundvision.com (studio)
"Man is doomed to perpetually fluctuate between states of extreme boredom and extreme turbulence."

spesimen
audio school graduate
Posts: 18
Joined: Wed May 07, 2003 4:47 pm
Location: ann arbor mi
Contact:

Re: recording into Soundforge -- what am i doing wrong?

Post by spesimen » Mon Jun 30, 2003 1:43 pm

maybe this is a strange question, but why are you tracking into sound forge instead of acid? it supports recording two-channels along with your track.

i suspect you are recording a part, but then when you load it into acid the information about tempo and speed isn't present so acid is just guessing at how much to stretch the file. you'd need to set the type (loop or beatmapped or whatever) and then make sure the number of beats is correct if it's a loop..

User avatar
cassembler
suffering 'studio suck'
Posts: 414
Joined: Wed May 07, 2003 8:38 am
Location: control room
Contact:

Re: recording into Soundforge -- what am i doing wrong?

Post by cassembler » Mon Jun 30, 2003 2:47 pm

The way I read it was that it was playing funky in Sound Forge right after he tracked it... But that's a good question, why not just record in Acid?
http://www.dfwsound.com (production co)
http://www.dfwsoundvision.com (studio)
"Man is doomed to perpetually fluctuate between states of extreme boredom and extreme turbulence."

stillafool
re-cappin' neve
Posts: 735
Joined: Wed Jun 25, 2003 3:41 pm

Re: recording into Soundforge -- what am i doing wrong?

Post by stillafool » Mon Jun 30, 2003 4:16 pm

Sounds like either a sample rate conflict or screwed up buffer setting. Having said that Sound Forge isn't a multi-track program you use to overdub tracks, it's a stereo editor (P.s., you're better off using 44.1; some of the effects, like the acoustic mirror plugin, only work at this resolution). I think you're better off using Acid for overdubs, and soundforge for editing and recording final masters.

lilcapn
gimme a little kick & snare
Posts: 77
Joined: Thu May 08, 2003 2:51 pm
Location: North Carolina

Re: recording into Soundforge -- what am i doing wrong?

Post by lilcapn » Tue Jul 01, 2003 11:53 am

i guess i'm not savvy enough with acid to know how to record into it! and i'd already used soundforge as a stereo editor of some audio i'd input from my minidisc player (via the presonus) so i knew how to record into that.

but you are correct, cassembler, that it was playing slow in soundforge right after recording, before i even put it into acid!

the reason i am using 48 instead of 44.1 is that it's music destined for a DVD, and the DVD authoring person needs everything at 48.

thanks for your help -- how do i solve/troubleshoot a "screwed up buffer rate setting?"

thanks!

User avatar
cassembler
suffering 'studio suck'
Posts: 414
Joined: Wed May 07, 2003 8:38 am
Location: control room
Contact:

Re: recording into Soundforge -- what am i doing wrong?

Post by cassembler » Wed Jul 02, 2003 12:32 pm

As far as buffers go, both Sound Forge and your audio card should have ways to do that. Your audio card should have a settings type utility that lets you change some parameters. Sound Forge will have a menu somewhere that lets you test that.

Still, I find that buffer problems usually have symptoms of hickups and stutters, NOT time shifting. But recording into Acid should be pretty easy. Check out the help section.
http://www.dfwsound.com (production co)
http://www.dfwsoundvision.com (studio)
"Man is doomed to perpetually fluctuate between states of extreme boredom and extreme turbulence."

baldbastard
audio school
Posts: 1
Joined: Thu Jul 03, 2003 7:59 am

Re: recording into Soundforge -- what am i doing wrong?

Post by baldbastard » Thu Jul 03, 2003 8:06 am

It sounds like SoundForge is playing the file back at 44.1 rather than 48, which is why it's slower. I'm away from my audio PC, but I recall having to deal with this once as well--I had actually accidentally recorded at 48 and wondered why it sounded slower than the performance... Also, depending on the audio drivers you're using for playback, 48 might not be supported.

David.

Everybody's X
re-cappin' neve
Posts: 685
Joined: Tue Jul 29, 2003 2:01 pm
Location: Kansas City Missouri
Contact:

Re: recording into Soundforge -- what am i doing wrong?

Post by Everybody's X » Sat Aug 09, 2003 7:54 pm

check the "acid properties" in sounds forge and make sure your bpms are set the same as your acid project. for example you have an acid project that is set at 140 bpm and your record a new track in sound forge (which defaults to 120 bpm) it will sound all jacked up in acid.
I havent mesed with acid lately but I believe you can right clck the sound file you are working with and check the proprties if it isnt set to the same bpm that is probably whats wrong. hope that helps!
www.everybodysx.com

Locked

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 6 guests