I wrote an Op-Ed piece for the Washington Post on Auto-Tune!

Feedback on the current issue, ideas for articles, questions about Tape Op

Moderators: TapeOpJohn, TapeOpLarry

groover
gettin' sounds
Posts: 146
Joined: Tue Feb 01, 2005 5:52 pm
Location: Los Angeles

Re: I wrote an Op-Ed piece for the Washington Post on Auto-T

Post by groover » Thu May 26, 2011 6:36 pm

feedback50 wrote: I think there is some risk of creating unrealistic expectations for intonation on the part of the listener as well. Some older vocal tracks sung by very good singers (like from the 80s) are beginning to sound out of tune to me.
re. unrealistic expectations: Listen to a Patsy Cline record. Her intonation is pretty spot-on. I don't think expecting vocalists regarded as the top of the field to have great intonation is unrealistic.

Regarding extreme AT as an effect, yes it's a stylistic thing, but it is now waaaaay overdone and for me it is a turn-off! IMHO

Other than that Thank you Larry for saying something that deperately needs to be said beyond the community of studio rats.
Last edited by groover on Fri May 27, 2011 7:28 pm, edited 1 time in total.

TapeOpLarry
TapeOp Admin
TapeOp Admin
Posts: 1665
Joined: Thu May 01, 2003 11:50 am
Location: Portland, OR
Contact:

Post by TapeOpLarry » Fri May 27, 2011 6:54 pm

When did I make the quote above? I actually don't recall this.
Larry Crane, Editor/Founder Tape Op Magazine
please visit www.tapeop.com for contact information
(do not send private messages via this board!)
www.larry-crane.com

groover
gettin' sounds
Posts: 146
Joined: Tue Feb 01, 2005 5:52 pm
Location: Los Angeles

Post by groover » Fri May 27, 2011 7:27 pm

My apologies Larry!

That quote is actually from a post in this thread by "Feedback 50". I obviously made a mistake when using the quote tool. I have corrected it.

I actually wouldn't expected you to make a comment like that!

TapeOpLarry
TapeOp Admin
TapeOp Admin
Posts: 1665
Joined: Thu May 01, 2003 11:50 am
Location: Portland, OR
Contact:

Post by TapeOpLarry » Sun May 29, 2011 1:01 pm

Yeah, wow. I'm not a fan of perfect tuning on singers by any means! Bring on the Lou Reed, Bob Dylan, Patti Smith, Ian Curtis, Michael Stipe, Kristen Hersh, etc.
Larry Crane, Editor/Founder Tape Op Magazine
please visit www.tapeop.com for contact information
(do not send private messages via this board!)
www.larry-crane.com

groover
gettin' sounds
Posts: 146
Joined: Tue Feb 01, 2005 5:52 pm
Location: Los Angeles

Post by groover » Sun May 29, 2011 1:33 pm

But I'm sure you can appreciate the intonation of a Patsy Cline performance!

TapeOpLarry
TapeOp Admin
TapeOp Admin
Posts: 1665
Joined: Thu May 01, 2003 11:50 am
Location: Portland, OR
Contact:

Post by TapeOpLarry » Sun May 29, 2011 5:17 pm

I never heard Patsy Cline sing anything I would call less than awesome.
Larry Crane, Editor/Founder Tape Op Magazine
please visit www.tapeop.com for contact information
(do not send private messages via this board!)
www.larry-crane.com

cjogo
re-cappin' neve
Posts: 676
Joined: Fri Nov 05, 2004 4:06 pm
Location: Carmel
Contact:

Post by cjogo » Sat Jul 30, 2011 11:48 pm

Wonderful article Larry ~!
Still glad we do not own a auto-tune device in any of our studios ..... So the artist has to work a little harder ~ at least its their natural voice on the final.
whatever happened to ~ just push record......

User avatar
markjazzbassist
tinnitus
Posts: 1050
Joined: Mon Apr 25, 2011 11:33 am
Location: Cleveland

Post by markjazzbassist » Sun Jul 31, 2011 6:28 pm

preach it brother!! great article.

i love the humanity of music as well, my favorite artist of all time, miles davis, always kept the "mistakes" in the music, and i plan to as well.

junomat
re-cappin' neve
Posts: 652
Joined: Sat Jul 19, 2003 2:17 pm
Location: Baltimore, MD
Contact:

Post by junomat » Sun Jul 31, 2011 7:26 pm

Congrats Larry!

charmingtedious
alignin' 24-trk
Posts: 57
Joined: Thu May 15, 2003 1:16 pm
Location: United States

Post by charmingtedious » Mon Jan 30, 2012 4:31 pm

I think this song is the best argument one can make for autotune.

http://rcrdlbl.com/2011/07/19/premiere_ ... ger_tanger

young.guv
audio school
Posts: 7
Joined: Tue Apr 17, 2012 10:40 am

Post by young.guv » Tue Apr 17, 2012 10:53 am

While I do think its a bit whack to throw auto tune on every vocal, i love the effect of tuned multi tracked back up "oohs or aaahs" for texture.. gives it a nice perfectly pitched pad/synth effect.. Def not against Auto-tune!!! Over use of anything is super annoying, but wouldnt write something off just cuz dylan & co were never able to fuck with it!

Post Reply

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 20 guests