Predict the next trend in recording

[percussion boy]

My guess is the next trend will be drums-only studios geared toward home-recordists. A studio with, say, a dozen kits set up and mic'ed, with a studio drummer or two for hire. Get in, get out, take your drum tracks with you and do the rest at home.

I've been wishing this for a while, actually. Doesn't have to be just drummers, either.

I wish songwriters like myself could hire, at some kind of affordable covers-everything rate ($1,000-$1,500 for a weekend?) a studio with decent pres and outboard gear, a live room, a good house engineer, and a good studio band.

Not necessarily a setup with all the gear and rooms a Class A studio has, but a space that sounds great in the hands of the right trackers and players.

Like hiring Stax with the MGs, or the Black Ark with Lee Perry to mix and the Upsetters to play.

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+1 on the musicianship thing, but dream on.

[drumsound]

My guess is the next trend will be drums-only studios geared toward home-recordists. A studio with, say, a dozen kits set up and mic'ed, with a studio drummer or two for hire. Get in, get out, take your drum tracks with you and do the rest at home.

I've been wishing this for a while, actually. Doesn't have to be just drummers, either.

I wish songwriters like myself could hire, at some kind of affordable covers-everything rate ($1,000-$1,500 for a weekend?) a studio with decent pres and outboard gear, a live room, a good house engineer, and a good studio band.

Not necessarily a setup with all the gear and rooms a Class A studio has, but a space that sounds great in the hands of the right trackers and players.

Like hiring Stax with the MGs, or the Black Ark with Lee Perry to mix and the Upsetters to play.

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+1 on the musicianship thing, but dream on.

I watched a PBS special about Stax about a month ago. I've been thinking about if that (and/or Motown) type business model would work. I'd love to do it.

I have decided to start offering drum tracks on a per song basis. if that works out I may try to start adding rhythm section tracks as well.

[percussion boy]

I watched a PBS special about Stax about a month ago. I've been thinking about if that (and/or Motown) type business model would work. I'd love to do it.

I have decided to start offering drum tracks on a per song basis. if that works out I may try to start adding rhythm section tracks as well.

It seems like for it to work steadily, you'd need to be hooked up with a community of local musicians playing in a genre that needs a good live rhythm section. I don't personally like current country music much, but that would be one example. Self-contained tribes like rappers with producers, or rock bands, would of course be useless to your enterprise.

Another angle on all this, getting back to Stax/Motown/Black Ark, would be to also be one of your one customers -- having the house band put out its own stuff with singers and writers of your choice. The question here would be having a listener market to sell the finished product to -- again, a question of finding the right stylistic niche.
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PM me if you want to kick this around further. I've been trying to figure out how to make it work.

All I can say is, if such a setup existed in Cali, I'd start saving to use it. I sure miss being around funky, flexible musicians -- back to the "decrease in musicianship" issue, I guess.

[edited several times for clarity's sake]

[Vogon]

I wish there was a backlash against DAW microediting, and one take recordings become a badge of honor again.

True, I like to actually keep some "Mistakes" in these days.

For me, I'd like to hear less "section-sampling", and have some bigger sample-based artists get of thier arses and write their own stuff.

I fear, in reality though, an extension of the eq-capture software systems.
Totally automatic mixing.
i.e. I think you'll be able to apply "signature" mix templates.
Run each take through a plugin analyser/processor, and have it apply an instrument/Sub-group dependant, adaptive, pre-selected compression, tuning, eq,
colouration and reverb all in one go.
This would happen to all channels/buses and the processor would set it's mix-bus level and pan-position: leave those faders at 0.
Don't like the mix? Hit one button, and load another template into all the plugs. There are 4000+ to download...
At the tracking stage, a mic'ing wizard would also ask you if you don't think the mic is a little too-close to the singer, as it has detected some plosives, or the KMM-118X (that's the one that models all the KM series mics) mic is getting a little too much boom from the sound-hole on the acoustic. Don't worry about the room sound - it will perform a reverse-convolution to cancel it and place it in a template dependant studio room once you've fired the included impulse-generator-gun from the same position of the source instrument.

(C) 2007, Hyper-mix TM.

We're all dooooomed. LOL

[mjau]

Just for the record:

Drums-only studios, copyright 2007 by mjau

Laughing all the way to the bank, suckaz!

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Recording straight to IC.

[;ivlunsdystf]

That Korg 1-bit hype/snazziness will probably start showing up in software pretty soon. Then all this 24/96 stuff will be "worthless".

[Phil Owl]

I wish there was a backlash against DAW microediting, and one take recordings become a badge of honor again.

That's why I like listening to in studio performances on radio stations, and I'm glad they stream them online.

Amen Brutha!!!!

[stevedood]

web-based DAW software?

[Scodiddly]

I watched a PBS special about Stax about a month ago. I've been thinking about if that (and/or Motown) type business model would work. I'd love to do it.

I have decided to start offering drum tracks on a per song basis. if that works out I may try to start adding rhythm section tracks as well.

It seems like for it to work steadily, you'd need to be hooked up with a community of local musicians playing in a genre that needs a good live rhythm section.

Why does it have to be local?

[drumsound]

My thing with the drum tracks does not need to be local at all.

[JGriffin]

I wish there was a backlash against DAW microediting, and one take recordings become a badge of honor again.

That's why I like listening to in studio performances on radio stations, and I'm glad they stream them online.

Amen Brutha!!!!

don't know if you're paying attention to yourselves, but there already is a backlash against DAW microediting.

[rwc]

I wish there was a backlash against DAW microediting, and one take recordings become a badge of honor again.

True, I like to actually keep some "Mistakes" in these days.

For me, I'd like to hear less "section-sampling", and have some bigger sample-based artists get of thier arses and write their own stuff.

I fear, in reality though, an extension of the eq-capture software systems.
Totally automatic mixing.
i.e. I think you'll be able to apply "signature" mix templates.
Run each take through a plugin analyser/processor, and have it apply an instrument/Sub-group dependant, adaptive, pre-selected compression, tuning, eq,
colouration and reverb all in one go.
This would happen to all channels/buses and the processor would set it's mix-bus level and pan-position: leave those faders at 0.
Don't like the mix? Hit one button, and load another template into all the plugs. There are 4000+ to download...
At the tracking stage, a mic'ing wizard would also ask you if you don't think the mic is a little too-close to the singer, as it has detected some plosives, or the KMM-118X (that's the one that models all the KM series mics) mic is getting a little too much boom from the sound-hole on the acoustic. Don't worry about the room sound - it will perform a reverse-convolution to cancel it and place it in a template dependant studio room once you've fired the included impulse-generator-gun from the same position of the source instrument.

(C) 2007, Hyper-mix TM.

We're all dooooomed. LOL

That doesn't sound too crazy.

[japmn]

Live to stereo 2"

[bewarethanatos]

web-based DAW software?

Guitar.com was working on something like this. I don't know if they ever succeeded.

I too wish micro-editing would go away. I mean, I'll move a bass or guitar or vocal around so that it hits with the drums if it's supposed to, but I hate zooming in as far as I can just to make sure something is perfectly aligned. Doesn't strike me as a very musical way to mix. Maybe it's because I'm new at this.

Has the "less compression" trend started yet? Or is the "over-compression" trend not going away at all?