Is SM7b a feasible kick mic?
Is SM7b a feasible kick mic?
Reason I ask, is I don't do much drum recording, in fact, most of what I'll be doing this year is for fun and experimentation. I don't currently own a mic that can be used as a kick mic. But I definitely can't see dropping money on a mic that is only for kick drums.
I've had the SM7b on my short list for a vocal and all around mic anyway. Do people ever use this for kick, and it is a feasible option?
I've had the SM7b on my short list for a vocal and all around mic anyway. Do people ever use this for kick, and it is a feasible option?
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I use mine on kick a lot. I don't have a dedicated kick mic, so I generally either use my SM7 or 441.
SM7 sounds great. Even if it's not quite what you're after, it's easy to shape with EQ compression to get closer to the sound you're after.
One thing I've noticed, is that since it doesn't have that super scooped/weird freq. response that a lot of kick mics have, you might have to spend a little extra time with tuning, and dampening the drum, and mic placement, since it's not automatically filtering out certain frequencies.
Both mics are no-brainers though. Very useful, and sound really nice on lots of things.
SM7 sounds great. Even if it's not quite what you're after, it's easy to shape with EQ compression to get closer to the sound you're after.
One thing I've noticed, is that since it doesn't have that super scooped/weird freq. response that a lot of kick mics have, you might have to spend a little extra time with tuning, and dampening the drum, and mic placement, since it's not automatically filtering out certain frequencies.
Yes. If you can find a used one of those, you'd be happy.junkshop wrote:Yep.
441s [snip] are another good option for all-around awesomeness.
Both mics are no-brainers though. Very useful, and sound really nice on lots of things.
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SM-7 + Homebrew SUBKICK = Oh yeah baby!
The SM& can be a little sproingy at times, a little too much midrange articulation... but it just triggers the heck out of compressors in that state and a post comp EQ can clean it up pretty good, probably not the best mic for kick used solo... I tend to pair mine with the subkick or a 4050 or maybe a CAD e-100 if I feel I really need to hear 10hz.
The SM& can be a little sproingy at times, a little too much midrange articulation... but it just triggers the heck out of compressors in that state and a post comp EQ can clean it up pretty good, probably not the best mic for kick used solo... I tend to pair mine with the subkick or a 4050 or maybe a CAD e-100 if I feel I really need to hear 10hz.
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I have tried both on kick the RE-20 alone, and the SM7 with a 414 on the outside. Every time I use the RE-20 im like,? This mic sounds like a cardboard box!" then I listen to it in context with the rest of the mix and I'm like,"Oh ya, I don?t even have to go to an eq to make it fit" Don?t get me wrong, I go to the eq for a little bump around 60hz but that's not always necessary.
Just don't solo them to much, you'll freak your self out.
Just don't solo them to much, you'll freak your self out.
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I know I did one album with Sm7 on kick and regretted it at mixdown time. Seemed like the lows weren't very deep. I love a cheap 5" speaker into a DI with almost any dynamic mic up close or inside.
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I sometimes use silly drum sound words to describe the sounds to clients and colleagues. It always works when people know what you mean, and forgive you for the onomatoopeia. Modern kick drum mics make a kick drum go 'boom', with a big click on the 'b'. Mics like the RE20 and the Sm7 tend to make the drum go 'pah' with a throaty mid on the 'a'.
Most self respecting, monster-truck-driving, turbo-males find a natural affinity for things that go boom with huge bass. Like fireworks and other explosives the sound is a powerful extension of masculinity. For this reason it is very satisfying.
Nonetheless, a classy 'pah' can sit nicely in a mix and show that a bass drum might have a tweed sort of sophistication. It speaks clearly, but doesn't need to rattle windows. It's a real gentleman's kick sound.
I happen to enjoy both, but I also have enjoyed pro Wrestling and Camus novels.
Most self respecting, monster-truck-driving, turbo-males find a natural affinity for things that go boom with huge bass. Like fireworks and other explosives the sound is a powerful extension of masculinity. For this reason it is very satisfying.
Nonetheless, a classy 'pah' can sit nicely in a mix and show that a bass drum might have a tweed sort of sophistication. It speaks clearly, but doesn't need to rattle windows. It's a real gentleman's kick sound.
I happen to enjoy both, but I also have enjoyed pro Wrestling and Camus novels.
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