Glynn Johns Drums...Why does it work?

LeedyGuy · Post by **LeedyGuy** » Wed Jul 22, 2009 8:17 am

noeqplease wrote:
"Those who can, do. Those who can't, TEACH"

A rebuttal:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RxsOVK4syxU

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Good one! I am a music teacher and this video poem is the truth!

We always say as a joke in my school to add to the above quote "...and those who can't teach, teach gym."

AstroDan · Post by **AstroDan** » Wed Jul 22, 2009 9:25 am

Resume:

"While other people get paid doing tangible and rational work - like bricklayers, or even Kim Kardashian making money showing off her ass - I would like to earn a living for the rest of my days on earth discouraging and failing students who produce the most favorable results and by not knowing who Glyn Johns is."

Life: HIRED.

Snarl 12/8 · Post by **Snarl 12/8** » Wed Jul 22, 2009 11:00 am

red cross wrote:
noeqplease wrote:Your teacher is full of it.

Be proud that your drum sounds are better than the rest of the class.

Ignore negative feedback.

"Those who can, do. Those who can't, TEACH"

Cheers
A rebuttal:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RxsOVK4syxU

Teacher machismo. I feel really sorry for that guy's students. Who the hell is he to decide when other humans talk or pee. What an a-hole. Bet he doesn't know who Glyn Johns is either.

sad iron · Post by **sad iron** » Wed Jul 22, 2009 12:15 pm

Is your teacher Tad Donnely?

http://www.expertvillage.com/video/4242 ... aining.htm

vxboogie · Post by **vxboogie** » Wed Jul 22, 2009 12:53 pm

sad iron wrote:Is your teacher Tad Donnely?

http://www.expertvillage.com/video/4242 ... aining.htm

Lol, I forgot about him...

"I'm a Mutt Lange!" ROTFLMAO!!!

T-rex · Post by **T-rex** » Wed Jul 22, 2009 1:45 pm

sad iron wrote:Is your teacher Tad Donnely?

http://www.expertvillage.com/video/4242 ... aining.htm

That guys like a virus, he pops up in every thread.

woodhenge · Post by **woodhenge** » Wed Jul 22, 2009 4:45 pm

sad iron wrote:Is your teacher Tad Donnely?

http://www.expertvillage.com/video/4242 ... aining.htm

Holy crap... that dude needs to lay off the sauce...

ott0bot · Post by **ott0bot** » Wed Jul 22, 2009 6:05 pm

T-rex wrote:
sad iron wrote:Is your teacher Tad Donnely?

http://www.expertvillage.com/video/4242 ... aining.htm
That guys like a virus, he pops up in every thread.

Yes, but a virus that is hilarious to watch destroy the english language and common sense.

I can just imagine him teaching.....

"Glynn Johns? What? What? I bet that guy never even owned a mackie big knob. Thats the bad boy right there if you want to take if for a test drive. Did I ever tell you how I produced the one armed guy from Def Leopards' solo record. Oh...and that carpet I put in really made my sm58 shoved in the bass drum sound like thunder. Thats how it's done. Oh....your grade. You get a D, cause Glynn Johns never played in White Snake."

LazarusLong · Post by **LazarusLong** » Thu Jul 23, 2009 9:02 pm

snarkiness aside, maybe we shouldn't crucify the professor in question because he didn't know this one thing and made a foolish statement.

I happen to also know the professor, and I think Ian D has a great point and I think the professor has egg on his face in this instance. But, it does not make him a moron or inept as others in this thread have tried to make him out to be. He has, in fact, made a huge impact on several hundreds (thousands?) of students' lives in a very positive manner. An overwhelmingly positive manner, even. He has a nearly encyclopedic brain. And normally, he has a really great ear.

But fuck all that, he doesn't know Glyn John's drum micing techniques. Right? Let's get him!

Snarl 12/8 · Post by **Snarl 12/8** » Thu Jul 23, 2009 9:28 pm

Are we sure the OP was doing Glyn Johns correctly? There is some line you can't cross and still call your shit Glyn Johns, right? There might have been something genuinely wrong with his technique and therefore the sound that the prof picked up on.

Now we gotta hear the recording and see the photos.

Mystic Steamship Co. · Post by **Mystic Steamship Co.** » Fri Jul 24, 2009 11:10 pm

snarkiness aside, maybe we shouldn't crucify the professor in question because he didn't know this one thing and made a foolish statement.

I happen to also know the professor, and I think Ian D has a great point and I think the professor has egg on his face in this instance. But, it does not make him a moron or inept as others in this thread have tried to make him out to be. He has, in fact, made a huge impact on several hundreds (thousands?) of students' lives in a very positive manner. An overwhelmingly positive manner, even. He has a nearly encyclopedic brain. And normally, he has a really great ear.

Josh is right, this thread has gotten a little de-railed and over the top. I really didn't intend to for this to be a collective stoning of my professor. For the record, I learned more in his class than I have in any other; maybe not about mic techniques, but I went from barely knowing how to use a console and a patch bay to getting getting the highest grade in the class on my console proficiency because of him. He really is a very knowledgeable engineer and a good teacher. To his credit the Glyn Johns drum mic setup is a bit of an obscure and hard to understand mic technique, hence me asking this question.

Now, should he have instantly assumed it was incorrect because he did not know of that technique? definitely not! But that doesn't really matter, I finished crying over it weeks ago.

I just really wanted to understand WHY it works so well, and I feel that I have a better understanding of it now. It's about having the snare drum perfectly centered in the image and also capturing more of the room sound with the side mic, which is perfectly in phase with the other microphones.

Unless my understanding is completely incorrect, lets mark this one answered and let it rest....

losthighway · Post by **losthighway** » Sat Jul 25, 2009 8:40 am

And- (to keep things on the positive/tech side) the other benefit of Glyn John's is the way the condensers interact with the toms and snare. It allows them a different angle to capture a greater drum presence, more than XY, ORTF or spaced pair, which also typically have the snare equidistant from each mic.

That mic looking across the floor tom at the snare gets a drum presence a mic wouldn't get 4-6 feet in the air looking down.

cjac9 · Post by **cjac9** » Sat Jul 25, 2009 12:47 pm

Speaking of proper ways of doing things, the proper spelling is: Glyn Johns not Glynn Johns.

Mystic Steamship Co. · Post by **Mystic Steamship Co.** » Sat Jul 25, 2009 9:18 pm

Tad Donley?

decocco · Post by **decocco** » Sun Jul 26, 2009 1:10 pm

To his credit the Glyn Johns drum mic setup is a bit of an obscure and hard to understand mic technique...

I don't mean to sound douchey, but I totally disagree. I would be worried about studying under a recording teacher who is unfamiliar with this technique.

Perhaps you can help educate him.

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